The new evangelism (gospel)
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glorydaz
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I don't think so. Adam would have realized something very important was missing in his life, just as we all do. We aren't so dead that we cannot seek God. In fact, we're only sitting on death row....with a yearning that God created us with...to know Him. Just because man can't figure out where to satisfy that need, doesn't mean God doesn't know about it.
Not true. God draws man through the preaching of the Cross, and man is never so dead he can't hear the word of his Creator.
Nonsense. I'm a mother and I put no stock in the sinners prayer. I put great stock in the love of God, and His unwillingness that any should perish.
There is the Gospel of Salvation. Nothing counterfeit about it.
That's why we preach the Gospel.
glorydaz
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Yeah, and they get that idea of being "born in Adam" from a verse that is speaking of being born with a body of flesh and blood. Nothing about sin there at all.
You'd best check some of those "foundational principles" for yourself instead of just swallowing them whole.
glorydaz
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Don't over-react. He was making a point...it was a comment.
"By grace are ye saved through trust, as long as man agrees to be saved."
Whoa, are you screwed up. Those that were saved in the New Testament were saved by hearing and believing the Gospel, Romans 10:17.
This OP was an attempt to prove the stupidity of mankind when they suggest that without the consent of man Elohim cannot bring a man out of death and darkness into life and light.
I AM the resurrection and the Life.
When Messiah was brought to the tomb in which Lazarus lay dead:
Did Messiah wait outside for the dead to raise himself?
Did He knock on the stone waiting for Lazarus to roll away the stone?
Did he wait until Lazarus asked to be raised from the dead?
Or did Messiah bypass the free will of Lazarus and resurrect him from the dead by calling him out by the word of His power?
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of Elohim: and they that hear shall live".
I can say for an absolute fact and without fear of contradiction that I was dead in sin and responded to the call as did Lazarus.
A young man has just left and his experience was the same. Raised from the dead without asking.
"By grace are ye saved through trust" was written by the author of Romans Roberto. It can be found in Ephesians.
"As long as man agrees", was my attempt at showing how stupid your new gospel is.
popsthebuilder
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Were you already a believer of some kind? As in not an atheist?
I agree that I responded when called. But I find that for me, I did happen to call out or pray to GOD and Christ in my atheism as contradictory as that sounds. Not that I think I had to have hope or sincere need, or acceptance of need, but that is just how I happened for me. That is why I ask.
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Epoisses
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And you can't believe that Christ is the savior of the world. Sheep believe and Goats only pretend to believe.
Sinners prayer does produce emotions, but that's it. There will always be doubt.
I could explain in detail what atheist actually means, but your abuse is not something I want to encourage.
Epoisses
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We don't have this sinner's prayer in our country, lol.
popsthebuilder
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I asked nothing about the sinners prayer.
Nor did I ask what your definition is of a state that I know of due to personal experience.
Would you please be so kind as to simply answer my simple questions?
If you haven't noticed; I have no problem leaving the past in the past.
I give you my word I am not setting you up for anything whatsoever, but would only like to compare your explanation of your experience to my own.
Thank you,
peace, with sincerity
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That's where it originated.
You and I speak a different language.
Epoisses
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We have this prayer, Our Lord please deliver us from the Tea barons of Wall street and their sick and twisted love of the French Calvin!
that's for sure.
Your lack of reverential consideration in relation to prayer is disgusting. Irreverence and injustice are the two sins, because of which, Elohim judges society with the lusts of homosexuals. You are to blame for the perversions of these men and women. Read Romans 1
Repent and trust.
popsthebuilder
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I'm pretty sure we are both speaking English to some level.
I'm also sure we are both professing believers in the Christ of GOD.
Why can you not answer me for the sake of my understanding. It may help me. It may help me to better understand your perspective.
peace
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