The Late Great Urantia Revelation

Caino

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"The concept of truth might possibly be entertained apart from personality, the concept of beauty may exist without personality, but the concept of divine goodness is understandable only in relation to personality. Only a person can love and be loved. Even beauty and truth would be divorced from survival hope if they were not attributes of a personal God, a loving Father. ~1:7.3~https://urantiabook.org/001-The-Universal-Father/#1_7
 

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The Incarnation—Making Two One​

120:4.1 (1331.1) "And so certain unworthy children of Michael, who had accused their Creator-father of selfishly seeking rulership and indulged the insinuation that the Creator Son was arbitrarily and autocratically upheld in power by virtue of the unreasoning loyalty of a deluded universe of subservient creatures, were to be silenced forever and left confounded and disillusioned by the life of self-forgetful service which the Son of God now entered upon as the Son of Man—all the while subject to “the will of the Paradise Father.”

120:4.2 (1331.2) But make no mistake; Christ Michael, while truly a dual-origin being, was not a double personality. He was not God in association with man but, rather, God incarnate in man. And he was always just that combined being. The only progressive factor in such a nonunderstandable relationship was the progressive self-conscious realization and recognition (by the human mind) of this fact of being God and man.

120:4.3 (1331.3) Christ Michael did not progressively become God. God did not, at some vital moment in the earth life of Jesus, become man. Jesus was God and man—always and even forevermore. And this God and this man were, and now are, one, even as the Paradise Trinity of three beings is in reality one Deity.

120:4.4 (1331.4) Never lose sight of the fact that the supreme spiritual purpose of the Michael bestowal was to enhance the revelation of God.

120:4.5 (1331.5) Urantia mortals have varying concepts of the miraculous, but to us who live as citizens of the local universe there are few miracles, and of these by far the most intriguing are the incarnational bestowals of the Paradise Sons. The appearance in and on your world, by apparently natural processes, of a divine Son, we regard as a miracle—the operation of universal laws beyond our understanding. Jesus of Nazareth was a miraculous person.

120:4.6 (1331.6) In and through all this extraordinary experience, God the Father chose to manifest himself as he always does — in the usual way—in the normal, natural, and dependable way of divine acting." UB 1955
 

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Welcome everyone to the thread,

This space is dedicated to sharing and discussion of the Urantia Papers, or what formally came to be known in the public domain as the Urantia Book (UB), a large comprehensive tome of 196 Papers given to our planet in the early part of the 20th century by a group of celestial personalities, serving as the 5th epochal revelation to our planet 'Urantia' (Earth). The revelators used the highest concepts of knowledge among the archives of humanity at that time within the schools of science, religion, history and philosophy, expanding our conceptual frame-work of the universe and the purpose of creation in time and eternity, particularly explaining the ascension-program and eternal progression of souls in their journey towards divine perfection.




The volume is divided in 4 parts (online study edition indexed here) -

1. The Central and Superuniverses

2. The Local Universe

3. History of Urantia (planet Earth)

4. The Life and Teachings of Jesus


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These introductions below explain much more for those interested in discussing

The UB – an introduction

An introduction to the UB for Conservative Christians


Urantia Book Differences From Traditional Christian Beliefs

Truthbook Intro.

3-Part Video Introduction to the Urantia Book

Urantia Foundation Intro.

UB Websites Directory


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Open, explorative and insightful discussion is encouraged here concerning the cosmology, philosophy, theology revealed in the papers,...their concepts, ideals, values, meanings within the contextual frames provided, whether one sees this work as 'inspired', truly 'revelatory' (more or less) or as religious science fiction or a tapestry of amalgamated influences from various sources,...no matter,....respectful and civil dialogue is encouraged, for those interested in the many subjects covered in this work.

Thank You.


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A new quack comes to town pulling the old Josep Smith and Urim and Thummin goggles crap to deceive the world so as to make a killing off dupes dumb enough to buy into that crap.
 
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Caino

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A new quack comes to town pulling the old Josep Smith and Urim and Thummin goggles crap to deceive the world so as to make a killing off dupes dumb enough to buy into that crap.
Hi happy person. The Book is in a non profit trust. No preachers salaries', no tithes, just volunteers carrying the message to people who would be interested.

Every revelation is hated first. The Jews largely hated Jesus and were left desolate and discredited. They abused and killed the prophets before them as well.
 

marke

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Hi happy person. The Book is in a non profit trust. No preachers salaries', no tithes, just volunteers carrying the message to people who would be interested.

Every revelation is hated first. The Jews largely hated Jesus and were left desolate and discredited. They abused and killed the prophets before them as well.
You would benefit a great deal by going to the Lord and begging Him to protect you from false religions and lies of the devil.
 

Caino

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Blasphemy will not be tolerated on TOL.
You would benefit a great deal by going to the Lord and begging Him to protect you from false religions and lies of the devil.
I’m so grateful that I found the UB and that I don’t believe in a devil God who’s spirit gets into peoples brains.

We now have the entire life of Jesus and the original gospel.
 

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THE INTERLUDE VISIT TO JERUSALEM​

147:0.1 "JESUS and the apostles arrived in Capernaum on Wednesday, March 17, and spent two weeks at the Bethsaida headquarters before they departed for Jerusalem. These two weeks the apostles taught the people by the seaside while Jesus spent much time alone in the hills about his Father’s business. During this period Jesus, accompanied by James and John Zebedee made two secret trips to Tiberias, where they met with the believers and instructed them in the gospel of the kingdom.

147:0.2 Many of the household of Herod believed in Jesus and attended these meetings. It was the influence of these believers among Herod’s official family that had helped to lessen that ruler’s enmity toward Jesus. These believers at Tiberias had fully explained to Herod that the “kingdom” which Jesus proclaimed was spiritual in nature and not a political venture. Herod rather believed these members of his own household and therefore did not permit himself to become unduly alarmed by the spreading abroad of the reports concerning Jesus’ teaching and healing. He had no objections to Jesus’ work as a healer or religious teacher. Notwithstanding the favorable attitude of many of Herod’s advisers, and even of Herod himself, there existed a group of his subordinates who were so influenced by the religious leaders at Jerusalem that they remained bitter and threatening enemies of Jesus and the apostles and, later on, did much to hamper their public activities. The greatest danger to Jesus lay in the Jerusalem religious leaders and not in Herod. And it was for this very reason that Jesus and the apostles spent so much time and did most of their public preaching in Galilee rather than at Jerusalem and in Judea. " UB 1955
 

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As we arrive at Easter I thought it appropriate to post the narratives.


ALONE IN GETHSEMANE​

At Gethsemane by Harold Copping
182:3.1 After all was still and quiet about the camp, Jesus, taking Peter, James, and John, went a short way up a near-by ravine where he had often before gone to pray and commune. The three apostles could not help recognizing that he was grievously oppressed; never before had they observed their Master to be so heavy-laden and sorrowful. When they arrived at the place of his devotions, he bade the three sit down and watch with him while he went off about a stone's throw to pray. And when he had fallen down on his face, he prayed: “My Father, I came into this world to do your will, and so have I. I know that the hour has come to lay down this life in the flesh, and I do not shrink therefrom, but I would know that it is your will that I drink this cup. Send me the assurance that I will please you in my death even as I have in my life.”

182:3.2 The Master remained in a prayerful attitude for a few moments, and then, going over to the three apostles, he found them sound asleep, for their eyes were heavy and they could not remain awake. As Jesus awoke them, he said: “What! can you not watch with me even for one hour? Cannot you see that my soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death, and that I crave your companionship?” After the three had aroused from their slumber, the Master again went apart by himself and, falling down on the ground, again prayed: “Father, I know it is possible to avoid this cup—all things are possible with you—but I have come to do your will, and while this is a bitter cup, I would drink it if it is your will.” And when he had thus prayed, a mighty angel came down by his side and, speaking to him, touched him and strengthened him.

182:3.3 When Jesus returned to speak with the three apostles, he again found them fast asleep. He awakened them, saying: “In such an hour I need that you should watch and pray with me—all the more do you need to pray that you enter not into temptation—wherefore do you fall asleep when I leave you?”

182:3.4 And then, for a third time, the Master withdrew and prayed: “Father, you see my sleeping apostles; have mercy upon them. The spirit is indeed willing, but the flesh is weak. And now, O Father, if this cup may not pass, then would I drink it. Not my will, but yours, be done.” And when he had finished praying, he lay for a moment prostrate on the ground. When he arose and went back to his apostles, once more he found them asleep. He surveyed them and, with a pitying gesture, tenderly said: “Sleep on now and take your rest; the time of decision is past. The hour is now upon us wherein the Son of Man will be betrayed into the hands of his enemies.” As he reached down to shake them that he might awaken them, he said: “Arise, let us be going back to the camp, for, behold, he who betrays me is at hand, and the hour has come when my flock shall be scattered. But I have already told you about these things.”

Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane by Gerrit van Honthorst
182:3.5 During the years that Jesus lived among his followers, they did, indeed, have much proof of his divine nature, but just now are they about to witness new evidences of his humanity. Just before the greatest of all the revelation of his divinity, his resurrection, must now come the greatest proofs of his mortal nature, his humiliation and crucifixion.

182:3.6 Each time he prayed in the garden, his humanity laid a firmer faith-hold upon his divinity; his human will more completely became one with the divine will of his Father. Among other words spoken to him by the mighty angel was the message that the Father desired his Son to finish his earth bestowal by passing through the creature experience of death just as all mortal creatures must experience material dissolution in passing from the existence of time into the progression of eternity.

182:3.7 Earlier in the evening it had not seemed so difficult to drink the cup, but as the human Jesus bade farewell to his apostles and sent them to their rest, the trial grew more appalling. Jesus experienced that natural ebb and flow of feeling which is common to all human experience, and just now he was weary from work, exhausted from the long hours of strenuous labor and painful anxiety concerning the safety of his apostles. While no mortal can presume to understand the thoughts and feelings of the incarnate Son of God at such a time as this, we know that he endured great anguish and suffered untold sorrow, for the perspiration rolled off his face in great drops. He was at last convinced that the Father intended to allow natural events to take their course; he was fully determined to employ none of his sovereign power as the supreme head of a universe to save himself.

Agony in the Garden by James Tissot
182:3.8 The assembled hosts of a vast creation are now hovered over this scene under the transient joint command of Gabriel and the Personalized Adjuster of Jesus. The division commanders of these armies of heaven have repeatedly been warned not to interfere with these transactions on earth unless Jesus himself should order them to intervene.

182:3.9 The experience of parting with the apostles was a great strain on the human heart of Jesus; this sorrow of love bore down on him and made it more difficult to face such a death as he well knew awaited him. He realized how weak and how ignorant his apostles were, and he dreaded to leave them. He well knew that the time of his departure had come, but his human heart longed to find out whether there might not possibly be some legitimate avenue of escape from this terrible plight of suffering and sorrow. And when it had thus sought escape, and failed, it was willing to drink the cup. The divine mind of Michael knew he had done his best for the twelve apostles; but the human heart of Jesus wished that more might have been done for them before they should be left alone in the world. Jesus' heart was being crushed; he truly loved his brethren. He was isolated from his family in the flesh; one of his chosen associates was betraying him. His father Joseph's people had rejected him and thereby sealed their doom as a people with a special mission on earth. His soul was tortured by baffled love and rejected mercy. It was just one of those awful human moments when everything seems to bear down with crushing cruelty and terrible agony.

182:3.10 Jesus' humanity was not insensible to this situation of private loneliness, public shame, and the appearance of the failure of his cause. All these sentiments bore down on him with indescribable heaviness. In this great sorrow his mind went back to the days of his childhood in Nazareth and to his early work in Galilee. At the time of this great trial there came up in his mind many of those pleasant scenes of his earthly ministry. And it was from these old memories of Nazareth, Capernaum, Mount Hermon, and of the sunrise and sunset on the shimmering Sea of Galilee, that he soothed himself as he made his human heart strong and ready to encounter the traitor who should so soon betray him.

182:3.11 Before Judas and the soldiers arrived, the Master had fully regained his customary poise; the spirit had triumphed over the flesh; faith had asserted itself over all human tendencies to fear or entertain doubt. The supreme test of the full realization of the human nature had been met and acceptably passed. Once more the Son of Man was prepared to face his enemies with equanimity and in the full assurance of his invincibility as a mortal man unreservedly dedicated to the doing of his Father's will." UB 1955
 

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THE PARADISE TRINITY​



10:0.1 "THE PARADISE TRINITY of eternal Deities facilitates the Father’s escape from personality absolutism. The Trinity perfectly associates the limitless expression of God’s infinite personal will with the absoluteness of Deity. The Eternal Son and the various Sons of divine origin, together with the Conjoint Actor and his universe children, effectively provide for the Father’s liberation from the limitations otherwise inherent in primacy, perfection, changelessness, eternity, universality, absoluteness, and infinity.

10:0.2 The Paradise Trinity effectively provides for the full expression and perfect revelation of the eternal nature of Deity. The Stationary Sons of the Trinity likewise afford a full and perfect revelation of divine justice. The Trinity is Deity unity, and this unity rests eternally upon the absolute foundations of the divine oneness of the three original and co-ordinate and coexistent personalities, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit." UB 1955View attachment 988
The term 'false doctrine' usually refers to doctrines that are closer to the truth than this nonsense.
 

Caino

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The term 'false doctrine' usually refers to doctrines that are closer to the truth than this nonsense.
I understand, revelation is always mocked and hated. They hated the prophets, they hated the Son of God, they will hate the Urantia Book and these same people would hate Jesus if he came today.
 

Lon

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Hi happy person. The Book is in a non profit trust. No preachers salaries', no tithes, just volunteers carrying the message to people who would be interested.

Every revelation is hated first. The Jews largely hated Jesus and were left desolate and discredited. They abused and killed the prophets before them as well.
You are deluded. I've shown you, repeatedly, its deficits and mistruths as well as YOUR proclivity to build/buy a god in your OWN image.

YOU found something YOU liked and slapped 'god' haphazardly on a poor-excuse-for-a-wagon. The UB is every bit the flawed contrivance of Joseph Smith et al. Worse? YOU know it. YOU KNOW it Caino! YOU KNOW it is subpar and not from God. You know it yet don't care.
I understand, revelation is always mocked and hated. They hated the prophets, they hated the Son of God, they will hate the Urantia Book and these same people would hate Jesus if he came today.
You really don't. YOU made it up, you are posting stuff you WANT to be true but YOU know aren't true... You KNOW they aren't.

You've known it for a long time now yet won't be obedient to God. Instead? A god of your own making so you "don't have to" do what He wants you to do. You are seen for exactly what you are, Caino: A charlatan and a poor excuse for a human being who pushes lies to sooth his own scarred conscience. The UB is demonic. Yeah, yeah, I know, you don't think their are demons despite the horrible evil taking place in this world.... WAKE UP!
 
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Caino

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You are deluded. I've shown you, repeatedly, its deficits and mistruths as well as YOUR proclivity to build/buy a god in your OWN image.

YOU found something YOU liked and slapped 'god' haphazardly on a poor-excuse-for-a-wagon. The UB is every bit the flawed contrivance of Joseph Smith et al. Worse? YOU know it. YOU KNOW it Caino! YOU KNOW it is subpar and not from God. You know it yet don't care.

You really don't. YOU made it up, you are posting stuff you WANT to be true but YOU know aren't true... You KNOW they aren't.

You've known it for a long time now yet won't be obedient to God. Instead? A god of your own making so you "don't have to" do what He wants you to do. You are seen for exactly what you are, Caino: A charlatan and a poor excuse for a human being who pushes lies to sooth his own scarred conscience. The UB is demonic. Yeah, yeah, I know, you don't think their are demons despite the horrible evil taking place in this world.... WAKE UP!
I can tell you have a lot of anger and resentment in your heart and are a frustrated and controlling person. I'm not the first person to tell you that. Its an issue that has come up in your personal relationships with others. No? You seem insecure about your beliefs when you cant consider others without flying off the rails.

You haven't read the UB, you are simply contemptuous prior to investigation.

Even when I was a child I didn't believe the Jews story of origins. It has some truths but has been largely debunked as an accurate history. That I KNOW!
 

Caino

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The Urantia Book, like the Book of Mormon, is fiction.
Judge Rightly keeps inventing the charge of blasphemy as an excuse to ban me so its difficult to reply on this thread which is in the Religions forum on TOL. They shouldn't have a "Religions" section if they are too wimply to hear other views.


Religion---->"Discuss General Theology, Religions and Denominations, God's Attributes, Predestination and Free Will, Dispensationalism, Eschatology, Philosophy, Origins, Archaeology, Science, World History and other such topics.
 
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Judge Rightly keeps inventing the charge of blasphemy as an excuse to ban me so its difficult to reply on this thread which is in the Religions forum on TOL.

When you intentionally blaspheme God, you will incur the consequences. Stop blaspheming God, and you won't be banned for blasphemy.

They shouldn't have a "Religions" section if they are too wimply to hear other views.

You're welcome to post your views here. But blasphemy will not be tolerated. To reiterate: This is a MAINLINE CHRISTIAN board. You are, from the board's position, a cult member who does not hold to MAINLINE Christianity. You will be judged according to the standards of this board when posting on this board. That means when you blaspheme God, you will be punished for it.

Don't like it? Leave.

We will not pave your way to Hell by allowing you to blaspheme God's name, and certainly not on our board.

Religion---->"Discuss General Theology, Religions and Denominations, God's Attributes, Predestination and Free Will, Dispensationalism, Eschatology, Philosophy, Origins, Archaeology, Science, World History and other such topics.

Yup. But blasphemy is not included in that list for a reason.
 

Caino

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When you intentionally blaspheme God, you will incur the consequences. Stop blaspheming God, and you won't be banned for blasphemy.



You're welcome to post your views here. But blasphemy will not be tolerated. To reiterate: This is a MAINLINE CHRISTIAN board. You are, from the board's position, a cult member who does not hold to MAINLINE Christianity. You will be judged according to the standards of this board when posting on this board. That means when you blaspheme God, you will be punished for it.

Don't like it? Leave.

We will not pave your way to Hell by allowing you to blaspheme God's name, and certainly not on our board.



Yup. But blasphemy is not included in that list for a reason.
I didn't Blaspheme God in post #10,890 or the others. That's your silly, dishonest excuse and you know it!

Jesus taught life eternal or death. I don't believe in hell.
 

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I didn't Blaspheme God in post #10,890

You did in Post #10,889 (which was removed) by posting a blasphemous image.
You did in Post #10,886 (which was not removed).

or the others. That's your silly, dishonest excuse and you know it!

If you don't like the way we moderate TOL, leave.
 

Lon

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I can tell you have a lot of anger and resentment in your heart
Nope. Nice try. Just as bad as you read the Bible.
and are a frustrated and controlling person.
Well, there you go. Now at least I know why you can't stand the Bible and love an odd little book. You can't read.
I'm not the first person to tell you that.
Yes, actually, the very very first. Why? Because you don't know what you are talking about. You fail as a mind reader.
Its an issue that has come up in your personal relationships with others. No?
No. Caino, are you rational at all? Does it make any sense to you at all that God would talk through a Mormon, then a man with "miracle" corn, then a man lying on his bed catatonic? Does any of that make any kind of sense to a rational mind? No.
You seem insecure about your beliefs when you cant consider others without flying off the rails.
Simply because Paul says it is anathema and hellish, to share another gospel "which is no gospel at all."
You haven't read the UB, you are simply contemptuous prior to investigation.
ESPECIALLY after "Jesus greatly enjoyed this, his first experience on a farm." 💫
Oh, then let's look at the incredibly obvious time-stamped UB remark coming straight from the Kellogg's wacky mind, themselves:
"Jesus appeared to be a well-nigh perfect child physically and continued to make normal progress mentally and emotionally. He experienced a mild digestive upset, his first minor illness, in the latter part of this, his fifth (calendar) year."

You are an easy mark, Caino. A complete dupe with no mind for discernment or wise thinking. Grow up Caino. It is time to grow up. The Bible is true, this "UB" is garbage and I can show it over and over and over. YOU KNOW it isn't true! You have to! Only a mentally handicapped wouldn't know. I could have just about quoted this from memory, btw. I knew right where to go. Not quite as UB illiterate as you imagine, no?
Even when I was a child I didn't believe the Jews story of origins.
I know. You can't think or be taught to think. "Don't talk to Caino, he is completely ignorant of archeology and other empirical evidence." : plain:
It has some truths but has been largely debunked as an accurate history. That I KNOW!
No you don't. You don't know that at all. Does it ACTUALLY make sense to you that Egypt couldn't have happened? It isn't a story, at all, that one would make up a lie about. Evidence will eventually be found. Did you know 'scholars' speculated (they thought beyond doubt) that Daniel had been written many years after the fact. 100 years later the Dead Sea Scrolls were found. : plain:

THINK! Caino! Use your brain !
 

Caino

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Nope. Nice try. Just as bad as you read the Bible.

Well, there you go. Now at least I know why you can't stand the Bible and love an odd little book. You can't read.

Yes, actually, the very very first. Why? Because you don't know what you are talking about. You fail as a mind reader.

No. Caino, are you rational at all? Does it make any sense to you at all that God would talk through a Mormon, then a man with "miracle" corn, then a man lying on his bed catatonic? Does any of that make any kind of sense to a rational mind? No.

Simply because Paul says it is anathema and hellish, to share another gospel "which is no gospel at all."

ESPECIALLY after "Jesus greatly enjoyed this, his first experience on a farm." 💫
Oh, then let's look at the incredibly obvious time-stamped UB remark coming straight from the Kellogg's wacky mind, themselves:
"Jesus appeared to be a well-nigh perfect child physically and continued to make normal progress mentally and emotionally. He experienced a mild digestive upset, his first minor illness, in the latter part of this, his fifth (calendar) year."

You are an easy mark, Caino. A complete dupe with no mind for discernment or wise thinking. Grow up Caino. It is time to grow up. The Bible is true, this "UB" is garbage and I can show it over and over and over. YOU KNOW it isn't true! You have to! Only a mentally handicapped wouldn't know. I could have just about quoted this from memory, btw. I knew right where to go. Not quite as UB illiterate as you imagine, no?

I know. You can't think or be taught to think. "Don't talk to Caino, he is completely ignorant of archeology and other empirical evidence." : plain:

No you don't. You don't know that at all. Does it ACTUALLY make sense to you that Egypt couldn't have happened? It isn't a story, at all, that one would make up a lie about. Evidence will eventually be found. Did you know 'scholars' speculated (they thought beyond doubt) that Daniel had been written many years after the fact. 100 years later the Dead Sea Scrolls were found. : plain:

THINK! Caino! Use your brain !
Egypt did happen as Melchizedek said it would, he was the visible incarnate representative of God on earth. He made the covenant with Abram.

I don’t need to read minds, the way you talk to me says everything.


Jesus got an upset stomach and therefore what? You do realize that Jesus ate food when he was hungry and drank when he thirst?

Jesus called the Jewish leaders “blind guides of a nation”. The previous generations that killed the other prophets were also blind guides. The same kind of proud nationalist leaders and priests were in charge of writing ✍️ the history of Israel.

Jeremiah 8:8

"'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

Call me what you want, but you can’t call me gullible enough to believe Genesis in its entirety. But I can appreciate why you are so defensive about it.
 

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Egypt did happen as Melchizedek said it would, he was the visible incarnate representative of God on earth. He made the covenant with Abram.

I don’t need to read minds, the way you talk to me says everything.
Er, no. You completely miss that my addressing you here is care and concern that you are so easily rendered and duped. Instead what do you do? Dig in, posture, over what you know implicitly is wrong. You KNOW the UB isn't up to scratch, Caino! There is no way you don't (or is there?) 🤔
Jesus got an upset stomach and therefore what?
Therefore "Kellogg's." They were so into everything being 'stomach' related. Your 'doctor' was there, trained by them. Can't you see that Caino? Can't you really?
You do realize that Jesus ate food when he was hungry and drank when he thirst?
Er, "Kellogg's" Caino! THINK!
Jesus called the Jewish leaders “blind guides of a nation”. The previous generations that killed the other prophets were also blind guides.
He ALSO said to follow what they said, not as they did! THINK Caino! THINK!
The same kind of proud nationalist leaders and priests were in charge of writing ✍️ the history of Israel.
T-H-I-N-K!!!!
Jeremiah 8:8

"'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

Call me what you want, but you can’t call me gullible enough to believe Genesis in its entirety. But I can appreciate why you are so defensive about it.
VIOLENTLY ripped from context if you think it means every book (or any book) in the Bible Caino! Maybe you aren't a very smart person and I need to simply pray for you. Maybe you really and genuinely have no mind for discerning truth from error. The more I talk to you, the more I'm convinced you 'cannot' apprehend truth. Is this the case? If so, you have my sympathy, in sincerity, Caino. I will pray -Lon
 
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