the church

[chrysostom]

He calls people to himself... that is all it means. Jesus is the Chief Cornerstone....

so why did Jesus say
-And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter
-and
-And I will give unto thee the keys
-and
-feed My sheep

 

[dodge]

chrysostom;4683866]who do you trust?

Jesus

-I trust the church that Jesus built on a rock

I trust who Peter told others to have faith in i.e. Jesus

-it is right there in your bible

Yes it is Peter pointed others to Jesus NEVER to himself.

-the church gave us the bible

only in your delusions.

The OT was COMPLETE before Jesus was born.
The NT was written in part with letters sent to churches BEFORE the RCC even began.

 

[chrysostom]

Jesus



I trust who Peter told others to have faith in i.e. Jesus



Yes it is Peter pointed others to Jesus NEVER to himself.


only in your delusions.

The OT was COMPLETE before Jesus was born.
The NT was written in part with letters sent to churches BEFORE the RCC even began.

any student of history can confirm that the church put together what we now call the bible

 

[Robert Pate]

any student of history can confirm that the church put together what we now call the bible

The Bible was conceived by the Holy Spirit. The Catholic church had nothing to do with it.

 

[dodge]

any student of history can confirm that the church put together what we now call the bible

Got ya, The RCC did it all and God did nothing concerning His own word.

You do know if a lie is told long enough ( like the RCC putting together the bible ) many folks will believe it ?

Ever hear of the reformation ? The bible the RCC put together is NOT the same that Christians trust and rely on.

 

[Cruciform]

Jesus is the Chief Cornerstone...

Yes he is, though not in Matthew 16:18, where Jesus specifically presents Peter as "the rock" (nothing is said of a "cornerstone"), and Christ himself as the Builder of the Church.

...not some line of Italian pedophiles.

Merely a Straw Man Fallacy on your part. Apparently, this is the only way you feel you can "score points" against Christ's Church. Nice try, though.

 

[Cruciform]

Got ya, The RCC did it all and God did nothing concerning His own word.

Here you've merely engaged in a Straw Man Fallacy. Rather God produced the Scriptures through the agency of men (apostolic writers). Like Christ himself, Scripture is both divine and human.

 

[Cruciform]

The Bible was conceived by the Holy Spirit. The Catholic church had nothing to do with it.

Already answered (Post #1387).

 

[dodge]

Here you've merely engaged in a Straw Man Fallacy. Rather God produced the Scriptures through the agency of men (apostolic writers). Like Christ himself, Scripture is both divine and human.

The whole RCC is a straw man !

 

[Cruciform]

The whole RCC is a straw man !

The Catholic Church is a rational fallacy? First, explain what that even means and second, post your proof for the claim.

Back to Post #1387.

 

[dodge]

The Catholic Church is a rational fallacy? First, explain what that even means and second, post your proof for the claim.

Back to Post #1387.

Since when has any RC cared about scripture ? RC'S made up the doctrines , contrary to scripture, as they deceived their followers !

 

[Cruciform]

Since when has any RC cared about scripture ? RC'S made up the doctrines , contrary to scripture, as they deceived their followers !

So, then, no proof whatsoever. That's what I thought.

Back to Post #1387

 

[dodge]

So, then, no proof whatsoever. That's what I thought.

Back to Post #1387

As a good Roman Catholic I do not even believe you can see, hear, or understand the truth.

 

[Cruciform]

As a good Roman Catholic I do not even believe you can see, hear, or understand the truth.

Still no proof. Thus, Post #1387 stands exactly as made.

 

[dodge]

Still no proof. Thus, Post #1387 stands exactly as made.

The PROOF is that YOU worship the queen of heaven , which of course is NOT scriptural, and another lie of the RCC.

 

[Cruciform]

The PROOF is that YOU worship the queen of heaven...

Just another Straw Man Fallacy. Catholics worship God and God alone. So much for your "proof."

Back to Post #1387.

 

[dodge]

Just another Straw Man Fallacy. Catholics worship God and God alone. So much for your "proof."

Back to Post #1387.

At least be honest ALL Roman Catholics worship Mary !

 

[Cruciform]

At least be honest ALL Roman Catholics worship Mary !

You have this entirely wrong, and so every time you make this claim, you engage in a Straw Man Fallacy by categorically misrepresenting Catholic belief and teaching.

 

[dodge]

You have this entirely wrong, and so every time you make this claim, you engage in a Straw Man Fallacy by categorically misrepresenting Catholic belief and teaching.

I know what I see ! Mary is a goddess in the pagan Roman Catholic church, and to say otherwise shows you have no conscience or honesty left.

 

[Nihilo]

"Be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure."