Cruciform
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You've managed to keep yourself ignorant without anyone else's help.
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God's Truth
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I have heard that Constantinople helped the Catholics with some of their false doctrines, but the Catholics started in falseness before him.
God's Truth
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The Catholic church does many things that are against God.
The Catholic church has statues throughout, and the priests and parishioners are commanded to bow to them
The Catholic church calls their brothers in Christ father.
The Catholic church thinks that they can turn the wine and wafers into the real flesh and blood of Jesus.
The Catholic church makes Mary a co redeemer.
The Catholic church baptizes infants.
The Catholic church makes children who have not sinned confess sins that they have not done...to a priest, so that they can receive the wine and wafer.
The Catholic church pretends it can confirm the masses that they have the Holy Spirit, just because they say so.
The Catholic church sells prayers.
The Catholic church incenses their objects.
The Catholic church digs up their dead, puts them in glass see through caskets to pray to for a healing.
The Catholics do many things against God. These are added sins to people's sins.
Prayers for the dead and sign of the cross, approximately began in 310 AD.
Veneration to angels and dead "Saints", approx. 375.
The worship of Mary, and giving her the title "Mother of God", approx. 431.
Priests begin to dress elaborately, 500 AD.
The doctrine of purgatory, 593.
A chosen language for use, even though it would be an unknown language to a parishioner...the Latin language was chosen as the language of prayer and worship in churches, 600 AD.
The title of pope or universal bishop, was first given to the bishop of Rome by the emperor Phocas, 610 AD.
The kissing of the Pope's feet, 709 AD.
Worship of the cross, images and relics, 788.
Canonization of dead saints, 795 AD.
Holy Water, water mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, 850 AD.
Fasting on Fridays and during Lent, 998 AD.
The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in the 11th century.
The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII, 1079 AD.
The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year 1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans.
The Inquisition of heretics was instituted by the Council of Verona in the year 1184. Jesus never taught the use of force to spread His religion.
The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a permit to indulge in sin, 1190 AD.
The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed upon by Pope Innocent III, in the year 1215.
The priests from all over the world pretends to perform daily a miracle by changing the wafers into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive. The Lord's Supper is remembrance of the sacrifice of Christ. The spiritual presence of Christ is implied in the Lord's Supper. See Luke 22:19-20; John 6:35; 1st Corinthians 11:26.
Confession of sin to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III., in the Lateran Council, 1215 AD.
The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius, 1220 AD.
The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia, 1229 AD.
The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk, 1287 AD.
The Ave Maria, 1508 AD. The Hail Mary (sometimes called the "Angelical salutation", sometimes, from the first words in its Latin form, the "Ave Maria") is the most familiar of all the prayers used by the Universal Church in honour of our Blessed Lady.
The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of equal authority with the Bible.
The apocryphal books were added to the Bible also by the Council of Trent, 1546 AD,
The Creed of Pope Pius IV was imposed as the official creed 1560 years after Christ and the apostles.
The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX, 1834 AD.
In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal Infallibility.
In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption of the Virgin Mary.
The Catholic church has statues throughout, and the priests and parishioners are commanded to bow to them
The Catholic church calls their brothers in Christ father.
The Catholic church thinks that they can turn the wine and wafers into the real flesh and blood of Jesus.
The Catholic church makes Mary a co redeemer.
The Catholic church baptizes infants.
The Catholic church makes children who have not sinned confess sins that they have not done...to a priest, so that they can receive the wine and wafer.
The Catholic church pretends it can confirm the masses that they have the Holy Spirit, just because they say so.
The Catholic church sells prayers.
The Catholic church incenses their objects.
The Catholic church digs up their dead, puts them in glass see through caskets to pray to for a healing.
The Catholics do many things against God. These are added sins to people's sins.
Prayers for the dead and sign of the cross, approximately began in 310 AD.
Veneration to angels and dead "Saints", approx. 375.
The worship of Mary, and giving her the title "Mother of God", approx. 431.
Priests begin to dress elaborately, 500 AD.
The doctrine of purgatory, 593.
A chosen language for use, even though it would be an unknown language to a parishioner...the Latin language was chosen as the language of prayer and worship in churches, 600 AD.
The title of pope or universal bishop, was first given to the bishop of Rome by the emperor Phocas, 610 AD.
The kissing of the Pope's feet, 709 AD.
Worship of the cross, images and relics, 788.
Canonization of dead saints, 795 AD.
Holy Water, water mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, 850 AD.
Fasting on Fridays and during Lent, 998 AD.
The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in the 11th century.
The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII, 1079 AD.
The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year 1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans.
The Inquisition of heretics was instituted by the Council of Verona in the year 1184. Jesus never taught the use of force to spread His religion.
The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a permit to indulge in sin, 1190 AD.
The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed upon by Pope Innocent III, in the year 1215.
The priests from all over the world pretends to perform daily a miracle by changing the wafers into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive. The Lord's Supper is remembrance of the sacrifice of Christ. The spiritual presence of Christ is implied in the Lord's Supper. See Luke 22:19-20; John 6:35; 1st Corinthians 11:26.
Confession of sin to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III., in the Lateran Council, 1215 AD.
The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius, 1220 AD.
The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia, 1229 AD.
The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk, 1287 AD.
The Ave Maria, 1508 AD. The Hail Mary (sometimes called the "Angelical salutation", sometimes, from the first words in its Latin form, the "Ave Maria") is the most familiar of all the prayers used by the Universal Church in honour of our Blessed Lady.
The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of equal authority with the Bible.
The apocryphal books were added to the Bible also by the Council of Trent, 1546 AD,
The Creed of Pope Pius IV was imposed as the official creed 1560 years after Christ and the apostles.
The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX, 1834 AD.
In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal Infallibility.
In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption of the Virgin Mary.
God's Truth
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We have to watch our lives and our doctrines closely.
1 Timothy 4:6 Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.
2 Timothy 2:17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Acts 20:29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
And Peter warns us---
2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
1 Timothy 4:6 Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.
2 Timothy 2:17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Acts 20:29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
And Peter warns us---
2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
dodge
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The Roman Catholic corrupted, disregarded, changed, and left the word of God ( scriptures ) to follow evil men.
dodge
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Ignorance is folks that ignore the TRUTH as do Roman Catholics so they can follow other men.
dodge
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No surprise here scriptures have no authority nor binding weight in the R.C.C..
Cruciform
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What dodge means is that his preferred interpretations of the Scriptures have no authority or binding weight in the Catholic Church. That is what he's really upset about.
Cruciform
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Ignorance is folks that ignore the TRUTH as do dodge and other heterodox sectarians so they can follow other men. (See how that works?)
Cruciform
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The myriad recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sects---like dodge's---corrupted, disregarded, changed, and left the word of God (scriptures) to follow evil men. Nice try, though.
Yes, sometimes into the back room for a game of strip poker.
Cruciform, you are too snide and dismissive. Either have normal dialogue and treat other members as equals, or be reported for being so dismissive and link responding, which you have previously been warned about. No one likes your pompous act!
who do you trust?
-I trust the church that Jesus built on a rock
-it is right there in your bible
-the church gave us the bible
-I trust the church that Jesus built on a rock
-it is right there in your bible
-the church gave us the bible
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
Christians should know some church history. When we do we realize Rome does not own the early church father's. In fact, the early church father's stand as much against the popes empire as Scripture does. For instance, we would learn that purgatory was invented by Gregory the so called great. When we look at his writings we learn that he made no argument for purgatory from Scripture or tradition, like the 2 verses from Paul that Roman Catholics like to cherry pick to prove purgatory. What we do find is that his teaching of purgatory came from visions & dreams.
God's Truth
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Move on...
Yes the Catholics have heretical garbage, but why move on? This is a thread on the Catholic's church.
God's Truth
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Purgatory is not too far fetched, for there is a prison/Hell that the unsaved have gone and can still live in their spirits according to Jesus.