so is the Bible contradicting itself?
ECT The Bible Reveals Jesus is GOD
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so is the Bible contradicting itself?
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I gave a scripture Ex33:22,23 above addressed to Zach, you are dismissing. Explain it if you can and if you can't doesn't excuse you to accept an incomplete understanding to be the truth and then demand it be accepted by everyone else.
Jesus Christ is the express image of God, but not God Himself who Moses saw the back parts of.
In Rev.chs 4 and 5 and Daniel ch 7 the ancient of days, the creator is sitting on His throne before Christ is presented to Him.
Obviously God, while being Spirit, does have a bodily form but God is not a man.
Jesus is a man the beginning of the creation of God.
Jesus is our high priest, our savior, our soon coming King.
I do not demand anyone believe it.
You are free to believe as you so choose.
I like to examine the facts.
God walked with Adam in the garden.
LA
No but the renderings of some passages contradict the clear and straightforward ones.
You need to look into it instead of accepting the theories of men.
LA
Well, which is it, yes or no.
No, as I said
Good.
Yes, Paul explained there is a natural body and there is a spiritual body.
It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body and there is a spiritual body.
(1 Corinthians 15:44 NKJV)
(1 Corinthians 15:44 NKJV)
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Friend I respect the work you put into this, and your on the right road. But go deeper and you will see that none of the verses say Jesus is God. They confirm that he is the son of God.
God created all through his son Christ, not Jesus. Christ is a spirit being for he is the express image of his creator.
Okay, thanks for the explanation.
However, the NT declares (the numbers are from my memory):
4 verses: Jesus created "all things"
3 verses: Father God created "all things" through Jesus
1 verse: Both created "all things" (as in "We" did it)
Sorry, but you are absolutely not trusting in what Scripture clearly says.
Instead, you are absolutely trusting in what some denomination clearly says.
IMO, Scripture is meaning to convey ...
The Creation was Father God's idea and plan,
but He had God the Son actually do the creating.
He is the Word, the Second Person of the Trinity,
the Son of God, the One who became a man
(begotten does not mean created).
Everyone!
Start over again with an open mind, with no biases, traditions, etc.!
... With your own home group!
... With people who have no agenda!
... With NO leaders who are "hireling" "tares" from Satan!
... With NO leaders who are depending on your tithes to survive!
... Especially with what is coming soon to America!
Warning: Jesus taught that the kingdom of God/heaven have both
wheat and tares, which will be separated out at the end of the age.
The wheat belong to God ... the tares belong to Satan.
Yes, it's true ... they look the same, smell the same, etc.
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What does express image mean?
Several verses say Jesus is EQUAL TO Father God.
That's just one reason why they call IT a Triune Godhead.
Comprehend it, or not ...
God has revealed Himself to us in the NT
as 3 Persons or 3 Manifestations of God.
Why is this so difficult to accept?
Because we all accept the obvious fact that:
-- God is omnipresent (everywhere)
-- God is indwelling every true believer
etc.
Americans ... try to overcome the fact that America began getting rid of
"critical thinking" many decades ago, esp. through the education system.
A Canadian teacher told me that Canada has started to do this recently.
That's just one reason why they call IT a Triune Godhead.
Comprehend it, or not ...
God has revealed Himself to us in the NT
as 3 Persons or 3 Manifestations of God.
Why is this so difficult to accept?
Because we all accept the obvious fact that:
-- God is omnipresent (everywhere)
-- God is indwelling every true believer
etc.
Americans ... try to overcome the fact that America began getting rid of
"critical thinking" many decades ago, esp. through the education system.
A Canadian teacher told me that Canada has started to do this recently.
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Now, but, not when He was on Earth as man to be proven.
Yes, MANY people quote the one verse where
Jesus says the Father is greater that Him.
Yes, while He stumbling around on earth, that's for sure!
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It's not too late to check out all of dem retirement cities!
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If you desire the opposite of nothing, check out da OP!
Me, I desire that you retire and quit wastin' our time!
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Kids desire a lot of things they can't have like, growing up faster. Though you have years to go, be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. On the other hand, it wouldn't much matter how fast or slow some grow up if they don't want to prepare themselves for life ahead.
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