ECT The Bible Reveals Jesus is GOD

ZacharyB

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God will be born on the earth as a Son
Old Testament … Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 9:6
New Testament … Matthew 1:23, Luke 1:35, John 1:14, 1 Timothy 3:16

Father God and Jesus Christ both have the same names/titles
Lord ------------ Genesis 17:1 - Luke 2:11, etc.
Lord of hosts --- Malachi 2:14 - see Zechariah 14:16
Lord of glory --- Psalm 24:10 -- 1 Corinthians 2:8
Savior ---------- Isaiah 60:16 - Titus 2:13, etc.
Redeemer -------- Isaiah 49:26 - Galatians 3:13
I AM ------------ Exodus 3:14 -- John 8:24, etc.
Rock ------------ Isaiah 44:8 -- 1 Corinthians 10:4
King ------------ Psalm 74:12 -- Revelation 19:16
First and Last -- Isaiah 44:6 -- Rev.2:8, Rev.22:13
Alpha and Omega - See Rev.21:6 - Rev.22:13
Beginning and End See Rev.21:6 - Rev.22:13
compare --------- Isaiah 45:23 - Philippians 2:10-11


Jesus claimed to be God
(Don't forget that humility was one His strong suits. Thanks.)
Matthew 4:7

Jesus claimed to be “I AM”
(which is God’s name “forever”: see Exodus 3:14-15)
John 4:26, John 8:24, John 8:28, John 8:58, John 13:19, John 18:6, John 18:8
In the original Greek, there is no “he” after “I AM” in any of the verses above.

And Jesus also hints that He is the great “I AM”:
John 6:35, John 6:51, John 8:12, John 10:7, John 10:11, John 11:25, John 14:6, John 15:1

Jesus was the exact image of Father God
2 Corinthians 4:4, Hebrews 1:3, Philippians 2:6, Colossians 1:15,
Colossians 1:19, Colossians 2:9, John 14:9, 1 Timothy 3:16

Jesus claimed equality with Father God
John 5:18, John 5:23, John 10:30, John 10:33, John 10:36,
John 10:38, John 14:9, John 17:22, John 20:28-29<-----

Others claimed Jesus was God, or equal to Father God
John 1:1-2 (see Rev.19:13), John 14:11, John 20:28, Acts 7:59, Romans 9:5,
Philippians 2:10-11, Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:8-13, 1 John 5:20, Jude 4

Jesus was the Creator of all things
John 1:3, John 1:10, Acts 3:15, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 3:9,
Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2, Hebrews 1:8-11

Jesus is the Sustainer of all things now
Colossians 1:17, Hebrews 1:3

Jesus had total power and authority over everything and everybody
Matthew 4:24, Matthew 8:16, Matthew 8:26, Luke 4:40-41, etc.

Jesus is the Giver of eternal life
John 4:14, John 5:21, John 6:27, John 10:27-28, John 11:25,
John 14:6, John 17:2, Hebrews 5:9, 1 John 1:1-2, 1 John 5:20

Many people called Jesus “the Son of God”
The Jews taught that “Son of God” and “Messiah” signified equality with God:
John 1:41, John 4:25, Matthew 26:63. Also see Matthew 16:16 and John 20:31.
Therefore, the Jews taught Messiah = Christ = Son of God
Also see Matthew 27:43, Luke 22:70, Matthew 14:33,
Mark 1:1, Luke 4:41, John 1:34, Acts 8:37, Hebrews 4:14
 
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God will be born on the earth as a Son

God can not be born or die.

Gods son was and did.

Father God and Jesus Christ both have the same names/titles

Jesus bears His Fathers name.



Jesus claimed to be God

(Don't forget that humility was one His strong suits. Thanks.)
Matthew 4:7


Jesus said He ought not temp His God.

Jesus claimed to be “I AM”

The wording in Exodus was not "I AM.

And Jesus also hints that He is the great “I AM”:

Jesus was planned in the mind and heart of God before the foundation of the world including His death.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.



Jesus was the exact image of Father God

Jesus was raised up by His Father to become that.

Heb 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Luk 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Jesus claimed equality with Father God

Jesus said His Father was greater than Himself.

The equality is in that the Father had put all of the Fathers business into His sons hands.

Others claimed Jesus was God, or equal to Father God

Others claimed all sorts of things.

Jesus was the Creator of all things

No.

The Father of Jesus was and is still the creator.

Jesus is the Sustainer of all things now

Jesus was not the sustainer of all things before His resurrection.


Jesus had total power and authority over everything and everybody

Jesus was given authority.

Jesus is the Giver of eternal life

Eternal life is given from the Father through His son.

Many people called Jesus “the Son of God”

Jesus indeed is still the son of God, but it began with His birth from the human race.

The Jews taught that “Son of God” and “Messiah” signified equality with God:

Therefore, the Jews taught Messiah = Christ = Son of God


So?

Your problem is not just that you have it all wrong but that you rely on polluted food for truth.

You need to do your own seeking of the truth directly from the Lord. I am confident that you will do that.

the false teachers--

Eze 34:18 Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet?
Eze 34:19 And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.

LA
 

God's Truth

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God will be born on the earth as a Son

God can not be born or die.

God the Almighty can do anything He wants.

Humans are flesh and Spirit.

The flesh dies, and the spirit lives on.

Jesus died in the flesh, and raised himself by the Spirit, which is God.

Gods son was and did.

Father God and Jesus Christ both have the same names/titles

Jesus bears His Fathers name.


Jesus claimed to be God

(Don't forget that humility was one His strong suits. Thanks.)
Matthew 4:7


Jesus said He ought not temp His God.

Jesus claimed to be “I AM”

The wording in Exodus was not "I AM.

And Jesus also hints that He is the great “I AM”:

Jesus was planned in the mind and heart of God before the foundation of the world including His death.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


Jesus was the exact image of Father God

Jesus was raised up by His Father to become that.

Heb 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Luk 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Jesus claimed equality with Father God

Jesus said His Father was greater than Himself.

God the Father in heaven is greater than a Man in the flesh.

The equality is in that the Father had put all of the Fathers business into His sons hands.

Others claimed Jesus was God, or equal to Father God

Others claimed all sorts of things.

Jesus was the Creator of all things

No.

The Father of Jesus was and is still the creator.

Jesus is the Sustainer of all things now

Jesus was not the sustainer of all things before His resurrection.


Jesus had total power and authority over everything and everybody

Jesus was given authority.

Jesus is the Giver of eternal life

Eternal life is given from the Father through His son.

Many people called Jesus “the Son of God”

Jesus indeed is still the son of God, but it began with His birth from the human race.

The Jews taught that “Son of God” and “Messiah” signified equality with God:

Therefore, the Jews taught Messiah = Christ = Son of God


So?

Your problem is not just that you have it all wrong but that you rely on polluted food for truth.

You need to do your own seeking of the truth directly from the Lord. I am confident that you will do that.

the false teachers--

Eze 34:18 Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet?
Eze 34:19 And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.

LA

The Word is God and was made flesh.

Jesus' Spirit is the Spirit of God.
 

Bright Raven

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Kepurr knows better than believing in the trinity doctrine, but then he gets confused at exactly how many Sons there are.

Keypurr knows that there is a Trinity doctrine but like you does not believe in it. That is why you are both confused but by different deceiving spirits.
 

God's Truth

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Keypurr knows that there is a Trinity doctrine but like you does not believe in it. That is why you are both confused but by different deceiving spirits.

I am not confused.

I know how many Spirits there are.

Tell me, is Jesus' Spirit the Spirit of God the Father?
 

Lazy afternoon

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I am not confused.

I know how many Spirits there are.

Tell me, is Jesus' Spirit the Spirit of God the Father?

No.

The Spirit of the father is IN the spirit of Jesus and

the spirit of Jesus is IN the spirit of the father.

You deny the son of the Father by insisting that the son Is the Father.

You go directly to the Father by not recognizing His Son.

Therefore---

1Jn 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

You do not.

1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:

LA
 

Bradley D

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The Holy Spirit is of God the Father. Even though Jesus Christ the Son can send it to us the Spirit still is of God the Father.

"When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father--the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father--he will testify about me" (John 15:26).
 

ZacharyB

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Jesus claimed equality with Father God
LA ... Jesus said His Father was greater than Himself.

Jesus was the Creator of all things
LA ... No. The Father of Jesus was and is still the creator.
Just a quick response to one who refuses to accept clear Scripture on this matter:

Jesus, in His humility, simply said what should be totally obvious to everyone.
But, alas, 'tis not ... To the Muslims, I have pointed out:
Jesus (God) in His earthly body
could not possibly be in the same league as
Father God in heaven.

There are, I believe, 8 NT verses about who was/is the Creator.
About half say Jesus created all things.
About half say Father God created all things through Jesus.
So, all 8 NT verses proclaim that Jesus did the creating.
'Tis no problem because Jesus was/is God.
But, there definitely is a problem ...
if one believes "the doctrines of men" OVER the Scriptures!
His/her only solution is to claim that the Scriptures have been altered.
 

ZacharyB

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'Tis noted that the Jewish one (Elia in the Judean desert)
who instigated all of this has not responded.

If he would be trained for 17 years in those desert regions
as was Paul (end of Gal 1 & start of Gal 2) ...
he might just be illumined on these matters.

An important explanation:
Gal was what Paul called his girl friend during that time.
 

Cross Reference

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God will be born on the earth as a Son

God can not be born or die.

Gods son was and did.

Father God and Jesus Christ both have the same names/titles

Jesus bears His Fathers name.



Jesus claimed to be God

(Don't forget that humility was one His strong suits. Thanks.)
Matthew 4:7

He really said: "Man shall not tempt God".

Satan was trying to get to the Son of God for Him fail in the life of Jesus. The only way he could was by going through the flesh of the son of man, Jesus, by tempting like he did Adam. Jesus, would have nothing to do with it. He knew the written word for Him to follow for complete Faith in and OF His Father.

OMT: Now you know why Jesus, at the speaking of the words: "It is finished", was highly exalted by God and given a name above all names on Earth, below Earth and in Heaven. That is why He is the one coming again in clouds of glory as written in Mark 13:26. That is why our lives are so important in His eternal plans.
 

God's Truth

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No.

The Spirit of the father is IN the spirit of Jesus and

the spirit of Jesus is IN the spirit of the father.

So then, you admit you believe that Jesus is ANOTHER Spirit.

The Bible says there is only one Spirit.

You are now out of line with the Truth.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit,

Ephesians 2:18
For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

You deny the son of the Father by insisting that the son Is the Father.

You go directly to the Father by not recognizing His Son.
That is a silly attack with no merit. God the Father came in the flesh as a Son.

The Bible says there is only one Spirit, but you say there are two.

You have gone against the Word of God.
 

God's Truth

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The Holy Spirit is of God the Father. Even though Jesus Christ the Son can send it to us the Spirit still is of God the Father.

"When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father--the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father--he will testify about me" (John 15:26).

So then, you want to go against the scriptures too.

You say Jesus has a different Spirit than that of God's.

That makes two Spirits.

The Bible says there is only one Spirit.

Please get in line with God's Truth.
 

Cross Reference

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So then, you admit you believe that Jesus is ANOTHER Spirit.

The Bible says there is only one Spirit.

You are now out of line with the Truth.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit,

Ephesians 2:18
For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.


That is a silly attack with no merit. God the Father came in the flesh as a Son.

The Bible says there is only one Spirit, but you say there are two.

You have gone against the Word of God.

As you have as well.
 

iamaberean

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Keypurr knows that there is a Trinity doctrine but like you does not believe in it. That is why you are both confused but by different deceiving spirits.

No need to be confused. But I will translate the following.

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Translation:Lend me an ear Israel; Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:

The true Jew will tell you this "there are many gods but only one Jehovah God".

When the trinity doctrine is explained, they will go to Gen 1, but you see 'LORD God' is not mentioned in Gen 1
 

God's Truth

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No need to be confused. But I will translate the following.

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Translation:Lend me an ear Israel; Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:

The true Jew will tell you this "there are many gods but only one Jehovah God".

Jesus Christ is that ONE GOD THE FATHER come in the flesh as a Son, as a Man.
 
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