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[Eagles Wings]

@PPS

Excellent teaching on repentance.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

@PPS

Excellent teaching on repentance.

There has been Law and Gospel since the dawn of creation. Law is informative. Gospel is performative. (And the performative is that which God performs by the faith He provides within us.)

God informed Adam. God was performative for Adam.

From Adam to Abraham and to Moses, there was Law and Gospel. God informed and performed in and through man.

Once there was a covenant of THE Faith, there would then be the covenant of THE Law. The Law was never legislative codification. It was the means of fulfilling the Abrahamic covenant.

The Law was informative for the Faith to be performative. The people were not to perform the law, but faith WITHIN them was to perform the law.

This was all grace and faith. This was all Law and Gospel, and was UNTO Christ. Now that the Logos was manifest in the flesh and fulfilled every qualitative characteristic and functional activity in the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants, then we have the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ.

Having fulfilled the Law, it ceased in Him. He is now the distribution (nomos is law, and is distribution) in personified form instead of the written ordinances. Now we have Law and Gospel UPON Christ. He is both the informative and performative as we are hypostatically translated into Him by faith. Faith is a NOUN.

There are only two oikonomiai (economies - governings of the house/"dispensations"). That of the Father before the Incarnation of the Logos; and that of the Son having inherited all that is the Father's after the resurrection and ascension.

The only worthy steward is Theanthropos, the eternal Son. No man is a worthy steward of an oikonomia. And Belivers are co-stewards IN that oikonomia.

Paul is not the steward of any oikonomia. The informative was given through Him of the performative that is the Gospel that God accomplishes in and through Christ alone.

Law and Gospel. Since the dawn of creation. Two oikonomiai. One by the Father until Incarnation of the Son. One by the Son having inherited all that is the Father's.

YHWH has as one of its meanings, "He who exists to covenant." The Unilateral Covenant of Faith toward Abraham is that which is fulfilled in Christ (along with the Covenant of Law) and continues from that oikonomia to this oikonomia, and for all who believe both Law and Gospel in Christ for all ages.

 

[john w]

(This post is to serve you, rather than for debate, etc.; presuming your confession of faith in Christ is authentic. A Believer will hear this and be subtly corrected.)

And here's the MAD problem in simple summary...

You think sins (hamartiai) are sins (hamartemata). So when others rightly refer to sins (hamartiai), which are from sin (hamartia), you presume they aren't adhering to Paul's Gospel. But it's you arrogant, ignorant MADs who have not understood Hamartiology (Sinology), because you despise anyone who actually knows what scripture says in accurate translation into English.

Then you presume Nang (or whomever; I don't even know for sure) is referring to repeatedly confessing individual acting and resulting actions when they say things like the paragraph you and others keep quoting.

There is a one-time repentance for sins (hamartiai plural articular) unto salvation, which is repentance of sin (hamartia singular articular) as the source (and because Christ was made singular anarthrous hamartia). This repentance as an action comes from repentance (the noun) that is granted by God as faith comes by hearing the Word of God. Then that repentance becomes the condition of one's heart rather than sin being the condition of one's heart.

From that changed heart condition, one can then apply their (one-time) repentance in confession/profession (homoleggeo - which means to speak the same thing in agreement) for any and all sins (hamartiai) that come forth from the old man, because they are a new creation in Christ. This new heart wants to agree with God, both regarding Christ being made sin (singular anarthrous hamartia) AND whatever is from the old man which is cruficied with Christ as one is living this life in the flesh by the faith of the Son of God.

It isn't an inventory listing of indivual acts. Repenting in any continual manner after one repents unto salvtion is confession. Without the repentant condition, one could never agree with God (confess/profess) about all that comes forth from the old man OR about Christ being made every last quality of sin (hamartia singular anarthrous) as sins (plural articular hamartiai).

It's the privilege OF that one-time repentance unto salvation whereby Believers are able to agree with God for the rest of their earthly physical lives to agree with God about every last detail that could ever be considered sin (condition) and speak the same thing together with others and with God.

This is a huge part of what it means for us to "speak the same thing". Even more than doctrine, none of us should be saying something isn't sin (singular articular hamartia) when it's sin. Eg... If homosexuality IS sin (from the lapsed condition of man apart from salvation), then it should never be considered to NOT be sin. All Believers should agree that homosexuality has always been from the fallen condition of sin, and it will always be from the fallen condition of sin. Man cannot change that by legislation or cultural preference.

Repentance is anything and everything we think, say, do, and are AS believers. The noun is granted. The verb comes from the noun itself, just like faith. Then repentance as a verb is the life of same-speaking in confession and profession.

So you MADs have taken an aggressive erroneous position because you don't know the simple applied distinction between nouns and verbs, and what different forms of words mean that aren't easily and immediately represented in English from translation.

You misapply the terms sin/s and repentance, and then attempt to scrutinize everyone else based on your own faulty understanding.

And then you make fun of anyone who knows the simple meanings in translation and interpretation from Greek (or Hebrew) into English; and you refuse to be corrected for your false concepts that you've wrongly applied to English words in ignorance.

Others then misapply the words (or apply them without realizing your misunderstanding of the terms) in a slightly different manner, so it ends up being a battle over semantics that MADs have taken up in complete ignorance as a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge (epignosis).

From there, it's your pride. And it's all based on your ignorance.

It's all because you don't understand some basic comparative linguistics for transaltion. And it's why you embrace all other areas of whatever false doctrines you don't know are wrong for the same reasons.

Nobody spends their lives repenting of individual acts of sin for salvation. Repentance is once unto salvation; and then applied in confession BECAUSE one is saved. And it's not for sins (hamartemata), it's for sins (hamartiai); which you have ignorantly confused by not knowing the difference.

(This post is to serve you, rather than for debate, etc.; presuming your confession of faith in Christ is authentic. A Believer will hear this and be subtly corrected.)

Spam, and on record again-this mystic, who, on record, rejects the objective words of the book, again rejects that the Lord Jesus Christ died for all of our sins, and asserts we must repent of our sins.


You wicked, ravenous wolf.

From there, it's your pride. And it's all based on your ignorance.

Catch that self refuting assertion, hypocrisy, TOL audience?

A proud, arrogant, condescending, puffed up in heat bullfrog, musing on "ignorance," out of one side of his mouth, and, out of the other, weighing in on others' "pride."


Which side of your face do you want slapped?

And then you make fun of anyone who knows the simple meanings in translation and interpretation from Greek (or Hebrew) into English; and you refuse to be corrected for your false concepts that you've wrongly applied to English words in ignorance.

Your comedy act rolls on.....You can't even use proper English, misspelling simple English word, after simple word, and employing teenie bop "English words," such as LOL, and you are going to school us on "Greek (or Hebrew) into English," are you sport?

Translated "LOL" into this "the Greek," and Hebrew, will you, dear?

Have a seat, fraud-we are on to your scam.

 

[musterion]

To Nang, it IS a false Gospel.

I asked her about that and she said something like, it CAN or MAY save someone. She wouldn't expand on that but we know what she actually meant: it's the power of God unto salvation, but of the elect only. So it CAN or MAY save someone...if they've been elected and enabled to hear and believe it.

For the nonelect/reprobates? There is no power in the universe that can save them, so the Gospel is worse than powerless. For them, it's a flat out lie.

 

[john w]

There has been Law and Gospel since the dawn of creation. Law is informative. Gospel is performative. (And the performative is that which God performs by the faith He provides within us.)

God informed Adam. God was performative for Adam.

From Adam to Abraham and to Moses, there was Law and Gospel. God informed and performed in and through man.

Once there was a covenant of THE Faith, there would then be the covenant of THE Law. The Law was never legislative codification. It was the means of fulfilling the Abrahamic covenant.

The Law was informative for the Faith to be performative. The people were not to perform the law, but faith WITHIN them was to perform the law.

This was all grace and faith. This was all Law and Gospel, and was UNTO Christ. Now that the Logos was manifest in the flesh and fulfilled every qualitative characteristic and functional activity in the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants, then we have the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ.

Having fulfilled the Law, it ceased in Him. He is now the distribution (nomos is law, and is distribution) in personified form instead of the written ordinances. Now we have Law and Gospel UPON Christ. He is both the informative and performative as we are hypostatically translated into Him by faith. Faith is a NOUN.

There are only two oikonomiai (economies - governings of the house/"dispensations"). That of the Father before the Incarnation of the Logos; and that of the Son having inherited all that is the Father's after the resurrection and ascension.

The only worthy steward is Theanthropos, the eternal Son. No man is a worthy steward of an oikonomia. And Belivers are co-stewards IN that oikonomia.

Paul is not the steward of any oikonomia. The informative was given through Him of the performative that is the Gospel that God accomplishes in and through Christ alone.

Law and Gospel. Since the dawn of creation. Two oikonomiai. One by the Father until Incarnation of the Son. One by the Son having inherited all that is the Father's.

YHWH has as one of its meanings, "He who exists to covenant." The Unilateral Covenant of Faith toward Abraham is that which is fulfilled in Christ (along with the Covenant of Law) and continues from that oikonomia to this oikonomia, and for all who believe both Law and Gospel in Christ for all ages.

God informed Adam. God was performative for Adam.

From Adam to Abraham and to Moses, there was Law and Gospel. God informed and performed in and through man.

Once there was a covenant of THE Faith, there would then be the covenant of THE Law. The Law was never legislative codification. It was the means of fulfilling the Abrahamic covenant.

The Law was informative for the Faith to be performative. The people were not to perform the law, but faith WITHIN them was to perform the law.

Made up gobbledy gook, that says NADA.

a covenant of THE Faith...covenant of THE Law

Made up terms. Thed LORD God never taught you that, devil child. Guess who did?



"there was Law and Gospel."-Jeremiah the bullfrog

For the 12th time: Did Judas preach this "Gospel" of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV? Yes, or no.
Sielencio. No performo.

 

[musterion]

For the 12th time: Did Judas preach this "Gospel" of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV? Yes, or no.

You've asked that I can't count how many times since I came here. Have you ever once gotten a straight answer? If you did, I missed it.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Spam, and on record again-this mystic, who, on record, rejects the objective words of the book, again rejects that the Lord Jesus Christ died for all of our sins, and asserts we must repent of our sins.

No. I've repeatedly affirmed the opposite. You're the one rejecting the objective words of the "book" because you don't know what they mean. I've clearly and explicitly outlined that above, and you reject it.

Jesus Christ was made (poieo) sin (singular anarthrous hamartia). That means there is not one inward or outward sin that Jesus Christ didn't die for on behalf of all mankind.

False accuser.


You wicked, ravenous wolf.


Catch that self refuting assertion, hypocrisy, TOL audience?

A proud, arrogant, condescending, puffed up in heat bullfrog, musing on "ignorance," out of one side of his mouth, and, out of the other, weighing in on others' "pride."


Which side of your face do you want slapped?

You're welcome to come and attempt to slap either side of my face you think you're capable of, heretic. We can go to the dojo for a little mat time for you. Bring it.

I've illustrated very clearly your false accusations of non-MADs, even if they themselves don't always know how to express the details of Hamartiology and Soteriology.

Read it again. It was to serve you, in spite of yourself.

You don't know what repentance and sin/s mean. You've bought into an entire skewed false understanding of doctrine because of your false semantics war.

Repentance is ONCE unto salvation. Nobody repents of a laundry list of individual acts that no one could possibly remember. Sins are hamartiai (plural articular), NOT what you presume which is hamartemata.

You've been an entire faction of false doctrine because of simple misunderstanding of words and their meanings.

Your comedy act rolls on.....You can't even use proper English, misspelling simple English word, after simple word, and employing teenie bop "English words," such as LOL, and you are going to school us on "Greek (or Hebrew) into English," are you sport?

Translated "LOL" into this "the Greek," and Hebrew, will you, dear?

Have a seat, fraud-we are on to your scam.

The scam is your utter misunderstanding and misapplication of the English words sin and repentance, and your false doctrines from those false definitions.

Repentance is the changed condition of the heart and mind that is ONCE unto salvation, but continues instead of the sin condition because Believers are a new creation.

It's sad and hilarious to watch you novice and imbecile scriptural illiterates pervert truth by your false concepts.

Devices. Noema. Concepts of the mind. Ignorant of Satan's devices and preaching a false Gospel.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Made up gobbledy gook, that says NADA.



Made up terms. Thed LORD God never taught you that, devil child. Guess who did?



"there was Law and Gospel."-Jeremiah the bullfrog

For the 12th time: Did Judas preach this "Gospel" of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV? Yes, or no.
Sielencio. No performo.

Judas never repented (metanoeo). His repentance (metamellomai) was insufficient unto salvation, being only regreta and remorse. It doesn't matter what he said with his mouth. It matters what was in his heart. Whatever dead letters he spoke were not the Gospel unto salvation.

Judas was incapable of preaching ANY portion of ANYTHING considered to be the Gospel, so this is a stupid question. He could not truly preach Law (informative) OR Gospel (performative), for nothing he said would be God's peformative as Gospel.

You always ask the wrong questions. That's because you don't have answers to the right questions.

You don't know what sins and repentance are. And most non-MADs don't know how to respond to those false definitions that you give, so it just makes it look like they're promoting a works salvation when they're not.

Read the above a few times. It should correct you if you're a Believer.

 

[john w]

Made up gobbledy gook, that says NADA.



Made up terms. The LORD God never taught you that, devil child. Guess who did? Rhetorical q.



"there was Law and Gospel."-Jeremiah the bullfrog

For the 12th time: Did Judas preach this "Gospel" of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV? Yes, or no.
Sielencio. No performo.

 

[chrysostom]

Spam, and on record again-this mystic, who, on record, rejects the objective words of the book, again rejects that the Lord Jesus Christ died for all of our sins, and asserts we must repent of our sins.

No. I've repeatedly affirmed the opposite.

and what might that be?
-that we don't have to repent of our sins?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Judas was incapable of preaching ANY portion of ANYTHING considered to be the Gospel, so this is a stupid question.

:chuckle:

 

[john w]

No. I've repeatedly affirmed the opposite. You're the one rejecting the objective words of the "book" because you don't know what they mean. I've clearly and explicitly outlined that above, and you reject it.

Jesus Christ was made (poieo) sin (singular anarthrous hamartia). That means there is not one inward or outward sin that Jesus Christ didn't die for on behalf of all mankind.



You're welcome to come and attempt to slap either side of my face you think you're capable of, heretic. We can go to the dojo for a little mat time for you. Bring it.

I've illustrated very clearly your false accusations of non-MADs, even if they themselves don't always know how to express the details of Hamartiology and Soteriology.

Read it again. It was to serve you, in spite of yourself.

You don't know what repentance and sin/s mean. You've bought into an entire skewed false understanding of doctrine because of your false semantics war.

Repentance is ONCE unto salvation. Nobody repents of a laundry list of individual acts that no one could possibly remember. Sins are hamartiai (plural articular), NOT what you presume which is hamaremata.

You've been an entire faction of false doctrine because of simple misunderstanding of words and their meanings.



The scam is your utter misunderstanding and misapplication of the English words sin and repentance, and your false doctrines from those false definitions.

Repentance is the changed condition of the heart and mind that is ONCE unto salvation, but continues instead of the sin condition because Believers are a new creation.

It's sad and hilarious to watch you novice and imbecile scriptural illiterates pervert truth by your false concepts.

Devices. Noema. Concepts of the mind. Ignorant of Satan's devices and preaching a false Gospel.

"you're capable of, heretic."-spam, his Catholic/Calvinist/luteran "Hail Mary," spammned for the 666th time.

Again-he rejects that the Lord Jesus Christ died for all our sins, and asserts, since he rejects the objective words of the book, that we must repent of our sins, and hates others being saved, w/o him.


"Repentance is the changed condition of the heart and mind that is ONCE unto salvation, but continues instead of the sin condition because Believers are a new creation."-bullfrog

He asserts that Judas was a believer, as he repented, and that the LORD God needed salvation, as He repented.

Watch him change the words of the bible, to fit his "doctrine." Watch. His daddy the devil taught him that.


"You're the one rejecting the objective words of the "book" because you don't know what they mean."-bullfrog

Made up. You call praising, esteeming, glorifying............ the objective words "bible worship," you vile demon, and do not even know what the term "gospel" means, for, if you did, you would have given, a simple "yes or no" on the Judas "Gospel" by now. And you can't even employ proper English, you "LOL" fraud, and can't even spell.

 

[heir]

Paul is not the steward of any oikonomia.

He says that he is. 1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV

Ephesians 3:1-6 KJV

Colossians 1:25 KJV

Did Paul lie?

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

"you're capable of, heretic."-spam, his Catholic/Calvinist/luteran "Hail Mary," spammned for the 666th time.

Again-he rejects that the Lord Jesus Christ died for all our sins, and asserts, since he rejects the objective words of the book, that we must repent of our sins, and hates others being saved, w/o him.


"Repentance is the changed condition of the heart and mind that is ONCE unto salvation, but continues instead of the sin condition because Believers are a new creation."-bullfrog

He asserts that Judas was a believer, as he repented, and that the LORD God needed salvation, as He repented.

Watch him change the words of the bible, to fit his "doctrine." Watch. His daddy the devil taught him that.


"You're the one rejecting the objective words of the "book" because you don't know what they mean."-bullfrog

Made up. You call praising, esteeming, glorifying............ the objective words "bible worship," you vile demon, and do not even know what the term "gospel" means, for, if you did, you would have given, a simple "yes or no" on the Judas "Gospel" by now. And you can't even employ proper English, you "LOL" fraud, and can't even spell.

I clearly said the opposite of virtually everything you accuse me of saying.

There is no greater liar on the earth than a MAD liar.

You might want to reread what I said.

And you're the one worshipping the English print on a page that you've developed a false concept for apart from what it means.

 

[john w]

You've asked that I can't count how many times since I came here. Have you ever once gotten a straight answer? If you did, I missed it.

Not a peep, musty, as the fraud is scrambling to his lexicons, programo's, propositionons, LOL's, and all that jazz...

 

[john w]

You're the one rejecting the objective words of the "book" because you don't know what they mean. I've clearly and explicitly outlined that above, and you reject it.

Catch that 'ignorance," from this alleged "wise" "scholar?" All that egeeksashun, and the fraud does not even know the difference between objective revelation, given by objective words, and interpretation/illumination/understanding, asserting that objective revelation is understanding the meaning of words. That's a code "word"/phrase for his understanding of words determines what objective revelation is.
"ye shall be as gods....."


You vile, wicked wolf.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

He says that he is. 1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV

You need to get out of that watered-down English script that you worship as an idolator.

Committed is pisteuo. Believed. It's the oikonomia he was given to believe. It wasn't committed to him as the steward. He was a steward by being IN Christ as joint-heir and Apostle.

Ephesians 3:1-6 KJV

THE oikonomia. THE charis. You don't know the significance of the Greek article. This is Paul being charged with giving THE oikonomia (not AN oikonomia, as another one in succession, but THE only ONE which is Christ's stewardship that Paul shares) and THE grace.

There aren't mutliple graces. There aren't multiple oikonomias after the Incarnation and the finished work of the cross by Jesus Christ the Righteous.

You've bought into an English fallacy-based semantics war that is empty of any of the false meaning you assign to it.

Paul was called to take THE oikonomia and THE charis to the Gentiles. It wasn't another one as AN oikonomia and A charis.

Did Paul lie?

No. You do in your utter ignorance and false zeal. But none of you rogues will ever be corrected.

You're like Jehovah Witnesses fighting for John 1:1 to say "a" God. It's the same error, but you refuse to be corrected. Just like the JWs.

 

[john w]

and what might that be?
-that we don't have to repent of our sins?

What sins? The Lord Jesus Christ died for all of them, as they are in hell.

Another clueless drone, that has no idea, why the Lord Jesus Christ died.


Sit.

 

[john w]

There is no greater liar on the earth than a MAD liar.
.

You say those "no greater" spam words about everyone on TOL, you fraud. And we all know exactly what you said, devil child. Tam, me, musty, STP.................are all "the greatest" heretics, in the history of the world, eh, you pathetic teenie bob, fraud?

 

[john w]

THE oikonomia. THE charis. You don't know the significance of the Greek article.

vs. "LOL," misspellings.

You fraud, and there is no such thing as "the" Greek, scammer.