So much for the myth of the pure and noble "native American"

[musterion]

This thread isn't really about Native Americans. The topic is "Hey, I've found another way to bash liberas".

You have no authority to comment. You say we can't talk about Mohammedans, so you can't talk about Indians.

 

[musterion]

:nuke:

It's not what's his name trying to get in again?

 

[musterion]

I agree, but that doesn't justify this nations actions towards them either....surely your not suggesting that are you?

Different subject.

 

[exminister]

Humans are nasty people

Yes, they can be. But they can also be noble and generous. Quite the mixed bag.

They can be heaven or hell,and somewhere in between.

 

[musterion]

All have sinned. None righteous, no, not one.

 

[exminister]

The worst of it is that they blame us....the conservatives. As if their own parents were back in England drinking tea. :chuckle:

Conservatives, ever the victims. :rotfl:

 

[exminister]

All have sinned. None righteous, no, not one.

As a baseline, yes. Some do more evil than others. But the mix of those who are evil and those who do good is in every tribe, race, political viewpoint.

 

[exminister]

 

[chair]

You have no authority to comment. You say we can't talk about Mohammedans, so you can't talk about Indians.

This is an open forum. I can say what I like.

And I never said you "can't talk about Mohammedans". I disagreed with what you said. Hard to deal with that, I know. So it goes.

 

[Jonahdog]

They were technologically inferior. That's just a fact.

So as a group they were inferior to Europeans? That made it appropriate for Europeans to treat them as they did?

That is your justification?

 

[glassjester]

So as a group they were inferior to Europeans?

As a group, they were technologically inferior to Europeans.

That made it appropriate for Europeans to treat them as they did?

No.

That is your justification?

My justification?

 

[drbrumley]

We (Europeans) wiped out 90-99% of the millions of America's native people through (mainly) disease and violence. This is indisputable. It is simply history. What exactly is your point?

My understanding of his point is liberals like to hold up the Indians as some glorified entity when they were really nothing more than a bunch of savages who worshipped not the God of the scriptures but idols they themselves propped up. They sacrificed their own women and children to these idols. That we should not hold up the Native American Indians as some sort of people to look up to and respect but actually scorn them for their vile past...

I could be wrong though...

 

[chair]

My understanding of his point is liberals like to hold up the Indians as some glorified entity when they were really nothing more than a bunch of savages who worshipped not the God of the scriptures but idols they themselves propped up. They sacrificed their own women and children to these idols. That we should not hold up the Native American Indians as some sort of people to look up to and respect but actually scorn them for their vile past...

I could be wrong though...

I am not even sure who these "liberals" are, and how many of them actually "hold up the Indians as some glorified entity ".

Maybe if we saw a poll or something.

 

[drbrumley]

Well, it seems to me that most people in the US agree with the sentiment that they were "savages" and basically when looking at history for that particular time (mid to late 1800's), they agree with Sheridan that, "The only good Indian is a dead Indian."

 

[musterion]

My understanding of his point is liberals like to hold up the Indians as some glorified entity when they were really nothing more than a bunch of savages who worshipped not the God of the scriptures but idols they themselves propped up. They sacrificed their own women and children to these idols. That we should not hold up the Native American Indians as some sort of people to look up to and respect but actually scorn them for their vile past...

I could be wrong though...

You're not.

 

[musterion]

My immediate ancestors were pretty darned savage less than 2,000 years ago, even by the standards of the times. Even 200 years ago, they were largely stunted, brawling, clannish, peat-digging drunks.

 

[Sherman]

It's not what's his name trying to get in again?

Crucible----> :nuke:

 

[musterion]

Right, I'd forgot his name.

 

[glorydaz]

Conservatives, ever the victims. :rotfl:

Nice try. You bleeding heart libs can't pass that victim card off to us. We just smack it aside and get on with life.

 

[exminister]

Nice try. You bleeding heart libs can't pass that victim card off to us. We just smack it aside and get on with life.

I guess that must show up outside of TOL. :rotfl: