Mississippi Governor Declares April 'Confederate Heritage Month'

[serpentdove]

[Mississippi Governor Declares April 'Confederate Heritage Month,' No Slavery Mention By Donna Ladd Jackson] "Bryant spokesman Clay Chandler tweeted an updated Proclamations page, which now includes Confederate Heritage Day, as well as Vernon Dahmer Day, Irish Heritage Month and Ronald Reagan Day—but no Black History Month.

Two weeks before the Mississippi Legislature allowed 19 state flag bills to die in committee, Gov. Phil Bryant took out a pen and signed an official governor's proclamation, declaring the month of April "Confederate Heritage Month," a routine occurrence in Mississippi and several other southern states.

The proclamation, which does not appear on the State of Mississippi's website with other proclamations, such as about emergency inclement weather, is posted on the website of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, which is ferociously against changing the Mississippi flag to remove the Confederate battle flag—which supporters like to call the "Beauregard flag"—from its canton

SCV is also an organization that pushes revisionist history about the Civil War and the reasons the Confederacy formed, such as selling books by James Ronald Kennedy and his twin brother Walter Donald Kennedy at Jefferson Davis' Gulf Coast home, Beauvoir, which SCV manages. The Kennedy brothers are founding members of the League of the South. These organizations stand in strong denial of the reasons the Confederates themselves said they seceded, joined the Confederacy and started the war—to maintain slavery, extend it to new states and force the return of fugitive slaves who had made their way to free states.

On Bryant's gubernatorial letterhead, the proclamation starts out by explaining that April is the appropriate month to honor Confederate heritage because it "is the month in which the Confederate States began and ended a four-year struggle." It adds that the state celebrates Confederate Memorial Day on April 25 to "recognize those who served in the Confederacy..." Full text: Mississippi Governor Declares April 'Confederate Heritage Month,' No Slavery Mention

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcy7qV-BGF4

 

[Town Heretic]

[Mississippi Governor Declares April 'Confederate Heritage Month,' No Slavery Mention ...On Bryant's gubernatorial letterhead, the proclamation starts out by explaining that April is the appropriate month to honor Confederate heritage because it "is the month in which the Confederate States began and ended a four-year struggle." It adds that the state celebrates Confederate Memorial Day on April 25 to "recognize those who served in the Confederacy..." Full text: Mississippi Governor Declares April 'Confederate Heritage Month,' No Slavery Mention

Honoring an institution created to preserve and expand slavery makes further notice of the practice redundant as the notice is unwarranted...and hard to sell, even in Mississippi.

 

[serpentdove]

Honoring an institution created to preserve and expand slavery makes further notice of the practice redundant as the notice is unwarranted...and hard to sell, even in Mississippi.

They can't honor their heritage without being racists?

 

[Ktoyou]

Honoring an institution created to preserve and expand slavery makes further notice of the practice redundant as the notice is unwarranted...and hard to sell, even in Mississippi.

This was mot the preservative, or nostalgia intent, until the 1960s.

 

[Nick M]

Did anybody else ever notice people that like the idea of the Articles of Confederation and the rebellion bad mouth the UN at the same time? I agree about the suckiness of the UN, but their position makes no sense.

 

[patrick jane]

They can't honor their heritage without being racists?

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[Town Heretic]

They can't honor their heritage without being racists?

Rather, you can't honor the Confederacy without honoring what it was and what it served.

 

[serpentdove]

Rather, you can't honor the Confederacy without honoring what it was and what it served.

:yawn: They aren't honoring racists (Ac 17:26). They are honoring their family members who fought in the war. :dizzy:

 

[rexlunae]

They aren't honoring racists. They are honoring their family members who fought in the war. :dizzy:

There's no way to distinguish the two. They are the same people. And the Confederacy was their instrument. And describing the problem as "racists" is revisionism. It's like trying to honor the Nazis for their proud heritage.

 

[serpentdove]

There's no way to distinguish the two.

A friend of mine is related to Robert E. Lee. She honors her lineage but she's no racist (Ac 17:26). What do you recommend? She crawl into a hole and die? :dizzy:

 

[rexlunae]

A friend of mine is related to Robert E. Lee. She honors her lineage but she's no racist (Ac 17:26). What do you recommend? She crawl into a hole and die? :dizzy:

She could recognize that her ancestor attempted to sustain a great evil and that he was a traitor. Maybe there's something noble in her family's history that she could celebrate other than slavery and the attempt to preserve it.

Why? What do you think there is to be proud of in being related to Robert E. Lee?

 

[rexlunae]

If your grandfather were Joseph Goebbels, would you tell all your neighbors, or would you maybe not keep bringing it up? I think that's fairly analogous to being related to a famous Confederate but for the fact that a lot of people are nostalgic for the old Lost Cause.

 

[serpentdove]

What do you think there is to be proud of in being related to Robert E. Lee?

"...At a little before 4 o'clock General Lee shook hands with General Grant, bowed to the other officers, and with Colonel Marshall left the room. One after another we followed, and passed out to the porch. Lee signaled to his orderly to bring up his horse, and while the animal was being bridled the general stood on the lowest step and gazed sadly in the direction of the valley beyond where his army lay - now an army of prisoners. He smote his hands together a number of times in an absent sort of way; seemed not to see the group of Union officers in the yard who rose respectfully at his approach, and appeared unconscious of everything about him. All appreciated the sadness that overwhelmed him, and he had the personal sympathy of every one who beheld him at this supreme moment of trial. The approach of his horse seemed to recall him from his reverie, and he at once mounted. General Grant now stepped down from the porch, and, moving toward him, saluted him by raising his hat. He was followed in this act of courtesy by all our officers present; Lee raised his hat respectfully, and rode off to break the sad news to the brave fellows whom he had so long commanded." Full text: Surrender at Appomattox, 1865

 

[rexlunae]

"...At a little before 4 o'clock General Lee shook hands with General Grant, bowed to the other officers, and with Colonel Marshall left the room. One after another we followed, and passed out to the porch. Lee signaled to his orderly to bring up his horse, and while the animal was being bridled the general stood on the lowest step and gazed sadly in the direction of the valley beyond where his army lay - now an army of prisoners. He smote his hands together a number of times in an absent sort of way; seemed not to see the group of Union officers in the yard who rose respectfully at his approach, and appeared unconscious of everything about him. All appreciated the sadness that overwhelmed him, and he had the personal sympathy of every one who beheld him at this supreme moment of trial. The approach of his horse seemed to recall him from his reverie, and he at once mounted. General Grant now stepped down from the porch, and, moving toward him, saluted him by raising his hat. He was followed in this act of courtesy by all our officers present; Lee raised his hat respectfully, and rode off to break the sad news to the brave fellows whom he had so long commanded." Full text: Surrender at Appomattox, 1865

Yeah, gee. Almost makes you wonder why they got themselves into this mess in the first place, huh?

 

[Town Heretic]

:yawn: They aren't honoring racists...

Of course they are. That's the mindset that produced the Confederacy.

They are honoring their family members who fought in the war. :dizzy:

A war fought over slavery and fought by Confederates to preserve the institution.

A friend of mine is related to Robert E. Lee.

We're Virginia Lees on my mother's side, DoC and all the trimmings. And?

She honors her lineage but she's no racist.

If she honors service in that war she might not be a racist, but she's profoundly ignorant of history, lacks a real measure of empathy or...well, she's a racist. Because if you're celebrating the Confederacy, you have more issues than Time-Life.

What do you recommend? She crawl into a hole and die?

Because that's the reasonable alternative. Either worship at the alter of the racist Confederacy that nearly destroyed the nation over that perverse practice or crawl in a hole and die, right? lain:

"...At a little before 4 o'clock General Lee shook hands with General Grant, bowed to the other officers, and with Colonel Marshall left the room. One after another we followed, and passed out to the porch. Lee signaled to his orderly to bring up his horse, and while the animal was being bridled the general stood on the lowest step and gazed sadly in the direction of the valley beyond where his army lay - now an army of prisoners. He smote his hands together a number of times in an absent sort of way; seemed not to see the group of Union officers in the yard who rose respectfully at his approach, and appeared unconscious of everything about him. All appreciated the sadness that overwhelmed him, and he had the personal sympathy of every one who beheld him at this supreme moment of trial. The approach of his horse seemed to recall him from his reverie, and he at once mounted. General Grant now stepped down from the porch, and, moving toward him, saluted him by raising his hat. He was followed in this act of courtesy by all our officers present; Lee raised his hat respectfully, and rode off to break the sad news to the brave fellows whom he had so long commanded." Full text: Surrender at Appomattox, 1865

They should read that bit at the beginning of every NAACP meeting. Wouldn't be a dry eye in the house. [/sarcasm]

Look, he's family. I know he didn't own slaves or approve the practice, that he was by all accounts beloved and respected by those who knew him well and a man more trapped by his sense of personal honor within the racist context of his generation and home than the willful protector and advancing agent of that national cancer, but he served an ignoble and evil institution all the same. It makes him tragic at best, not venerable.

 

[serpentdove]

[:yawn: They aren't honoring racists (Ac 17:26). ] "Of course they are. That's the mindset that produced the Confederacy."

:yawn: You know the minds of the soldiers.

 

[Town Heretic]

:yawn: You know the minds of the soldiers.

I know the writings of the founders of that disreputable feast. They weren't shy about it. You don't have to be a mind reader..only a reader. Also, you should have yourself tested for narcolepsy.

 

[serpentdove]

[You know the minds of the soldiers. ] "I know the writings of the founders of that disreputable feast. They weren't shy about it. You don't have to be a mind reader..only a reader."

Then you would know that in reality these men were racists at all. They picked up a weapon and fought because they found themselves on a particular side of a border. :dizzy:

Also, you should have yourself tested for narcolepsy.

:yawn: You'd never had seen a yawn emoticon yawn had you been able to present an argument without an ad hominem attack.

 

[Town Heretic]

Then you would know that in reality these men were racists at all. They picked up a weapon and fought because they found themselves on a particular side of a border.

Not everyone did. In fact, a state or two essentially became involved in a secondary civil war on the point. And I don't care if everyone who rallied for the German cause in WWII was a Jew hating Nazi. I care that they served its aims.

:yawn: You'd never had seen a yawn emoticon

I have. I've even used it.

had you been able to present an argument without an ad hominem attack.

I did. You just weren't paying attention...maybe if you had more rest.