Kentucky clerk who refused gay couples taken into federal custody; ordered jailed

[chrysostom]

You guys are defending a bureaucrat, Democrat, and serial monogamist. Usually this is someone you'd dismiss out of hand or run out of town on a rail.

can you name the ones who are defending her?

I can't

 

[Granite]

can you name the ones who are defending her?

I can't

I see, so you think she should be in jail.

 

[ok doser]

Looks like you're new, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt for now and assume you're not just a troll.

way to dodge the question, coward

 

[Granite]

What I don't get is why ban some and not have a system in place to keep them from coming back? MOST forum sites have the ability to monitor IP addresses and keep them from re-establishing.

Because at least one mod and a former one know him personally and must think it's amusing keeping him around, I guess.

 

[Granite]

way to dodge the question, coward

Hi, Dave.

Bye, Dave.:wave2::loser:

Set some money aside for a pair of elevator shoes.

 

[chrysostom]

I see, so you think she should be in jail.

I see you can't name one person defending her

 

[Granite]

I see you can't name one person defending her

The first page of posts on this thread was people bewailing the end of Christianity and the usual nonsense. Put another way: Do you think she did the right thing or not?

 

[ok doser]

Hi, Dave.

Bye, Dave.:wave2::loser:

Set some money aside for a pair of elevator shoes.

you still think i'm sozo?


:mock::granite:

 

[aikido7]

yes, i would happily give up many of the "freedoms" that our evil legal system has discovered in the past couple generations

the "freedom" to murder my unborn child
the "freedom" to live in a culture saturated with pornography
the "freedom" to commit adultery
the "freedom" to a quick and easy divorce
the "freedom" to have my perversion recognized as normal
the "freedom" to molest children ***


*** coming soon to a perverted society near you!

It's not easy to live in a country whose professed values are human rights and dignity and liberty and justice for all.

There are hazards in a democracy, aren't there?

 

[chrysostom]

The first page of posts on this thread was people bewailing the end of Christianity and the usual nonsense. Put another way: Do you think she did the right thing or not?

yes

she did the right thing

 

[kmoney]

In order to avoid a worse evil, and even then, there are limits. In the initial link I gave, there are different kinds of material cooperation (about the details of which I'm not entirely clear).

I did read through different parts of that. The link says that you can't use the ends to justify the means and yet that seems to be exactly what you just proposed.

 

[kmoney]

I'm not sure I understand the question. What do you mean?

Is God a mediate material cooperator in evil?

 

[kmoney]

Because Christians apparently shouldn't hold civic offices. :idunno:

No. Just Christians that believe issuing a marriage license to a gay couple is a violation of their beliefs.

 

[ok doser]

No. Just Christians that believe issuing a marriage license to a gay couple is a violation of their beliefs.

how about a Christian nurse who is transferred to an abortion clinic?

Should she resign?

 

[Traditio]

I did read through different parts of that. The link says that you can't use the ends to justify the means and yet that seems to be exactly what you just proposed.

You can't use the ends to justify the means if the means are intrinsically evil.

Note that there's nothing intrinsically evil about holding a beer for someone.

 

[drbrumley]

you still think i'm sozo?


:mock::granite:

:jawdrop:

 

[drbrumley]

your forced to do these things?

Bump for OK.....

 

[StanJ]

Because at least one mod and a former one know him personally and must think it's amusing keeping him around, I guess.

I guess the rules DON'T apply to everyone equally aye?

Absolute power and all that...

 

[Town Heretic]

I guess the rules DON'T apply to everyone equally aye?

Never have, but anyone who has been banned repeatedly will ride the pine for a pretty long clip before being let back in. Some, like AB, even turn around a more contentious approach and are better for it, as is the forum.

Knight has let people on either side of the aisle come back after a stint and before the full time ran.

Absolute power and all that...

I don't think it's about corruption. It's about utility. Some contention and stirring keeps everyone talking and arguing. The trick is to make sure the penalty phase is sufficient to keep the worst sort of trolling behavior off the boards, to move people to reform the worst of it. Mostly that's what tends to happen. The letter of the law, skewed as it is in many ways, is mostly or generally aimed at promoting a spirit of engagement short of fisticuffs.

 

[ok doser]

your forced to do these things?

forced to live in and raise my kids in a society that says all those are ok, yes