Justification from everlasting !

Robert Pate

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Ps 103:17

17But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

I do not think it will be argued that Justification by Faith is a very great mercy to experience in this life. This mercy was not just random or by chance , or by freewill, but was established as a sure mercy from everlasting. God, the everlasting God, Preached the gospel of Justification to Abraham centuries ago Gal 3:8

8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

which is referring to Gen 12:3

3And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

But now what was the previous bases for this Mercy ? I believe it was the everlasting Covenant which is what Ps 103:17 is referring to, as the Mercy from everlasting.

I believe Jesus coming in the incarnation was a effect of that Covenant and why He is called the promised mercy.

Lk 1:67-73,77,78

67And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

68Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

69And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

70As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

71That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

72To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,


77To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

78Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, !

So Christ coming to die for His People is the fruition of the everlasting covenant. His coming was an act of mercy, in that He would give himself, his soul an offering for sin, for the transgressions of God's People.


Justification is not something that just happens.

Before Abraham was justified he had to believe God. "Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness" Romans 4:3.

Abraham believed that God was going to provide him with a savior. In the Old Testament they were justified by faith in God's promise. Today we are justified the same way, BY FAITH.
 

beloved57

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Justification is not something that just happens.

Before Abraham was justified he had to believe God. "Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness" Romans 4:3.

Abraham believed that God was going to provide him with a savior. In the Old Testament they were justified by faith in God's promise. Today we are justified the same way, BY FAITH.

I showed you the truth, and you have ignored it and started a rabbit trail !
 

beloved57

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You don't have the truth.

The Bible plainly teaches that Abraham was justified by faith, Romans 4:3.

You reject God's word and replace it with John Calvins word.
Continuing in your evasion and rabbit trail as usual

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beloved57

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Justified before the foundation of the world because God hath chosen us [The elect] in Him as early Eph 1:3-4

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

And due to that, God made them accepted in Him as early Eph 1:6

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.


Which grace was given us in the beloved before the world began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

And so if accepted in Him that early, then we were Justified in the beloved as early !
 
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Nanja

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Justified before the foundation of the world because God hath chosen us [The elect] in Him as early Eph 1:3-4

[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]3 [/B][/FONT]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

And due to that, God made them accepted in Him as early Eph 1:6

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.


Which grace was given us in the beloved before the world began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

And so if accepted in Him that early, then we were Justified in the beloved as early ![/FONT]


Amen Brother, the elect were Justified by God's Grace from Everlasting through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus Rom. 3:24.

For in God's Eternal Purpose Eph. 3:11 Christ was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world Rev. 13:8.
 

beloved57

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Justification in the mind and purpose of God:

Romans 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Romans 8:30
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Here we see the matter of justification as is it viewed in God’s eternal mind and purpose. God in eternity past sovereignly chose a people in Christ and determined to justify them based on the righteousness of Christ. His purpose was and is to glorify Himself in the salvation of sinners based on the righteousness of Christ. In Romans 8:30 it says that all whom God foreordained and predestinated to be conformed to Christ, He also called, justified, and glorified. All of these blessings which are earned by Christ for His people are spoken of in past tense, as if they had already occurred. Yet, many of God’s elect had not even been born at this time.

How, then, could it be said that they are already called, justified, and glorified?

We must make a distinction between God’s eternal purpose before time and what God accomplishes in His elect in time. It is true that in the mind and purpose of God, His elect have always been saved, called, justified, and glorified, not in their own persons but in the mind and purpose of God. It has always been so sure and certain that they would be saved, called, justified, and eternally glorified, that it is sometimes spoken of in past tense as if it had already taken place. It has always been so sure and certain because it was never conditioned on them. It was always conditioned on the sovereign grace and power of God who cannot fail and on the Person and work of Christ who is faithful to His Father.

I dont know the author of this article, however its truth according to the Scripture

https://testallthings.com/2009/12/11/justification-in-the-mind-and-purpose-of-god/
 

Nanja

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Justification in the mind and purpose of God:

Romans 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Romans 8:30
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Here we see the matter of justification as is it viewed in God’s eternal mind and purpose. God in eternity past sovereignly chose a people in Christ and determined to justify them based on the righteousness of Christ. His purpose was and is to glorify Himself in the salvation of sinners based on the righteousness of Christ. In Romans 8:30 it says that all whom God foreordained and predestinated to be conformed to Christ, He also called, justified, and glorified. All of these blessings which are earned by Christ for His people are spoken of in past tense, as if they had already occurred. Yet, many of God’s elect had not even been born at this time.

How, then, could it be said that they are already called, justified, and glorified?

We must make a distinction between God’s eternal purpose before time and what God accomplishes in His elect in time. It is true that in the mind and purpose of God, His elect have always been saved, called, justified, and glorified, not in their own persons but in the mind and purpose of God. It has always been so sure and certain that they would be saved, called, justified, and eternally glorified, that it is sometimes spoken of in past tense as if it had already taken place. It has always been so sure and certain because it was never conditioned on them. It was always conditioned on the sovereign grace and power of God who cannot fail and on the Person and work of Christ who is faithful to His Father.

I dont know the author of this article, however its truth according to the Scripture

https://testallthings.com/2009/12/11/justification-in-the-mind-and-purpose-of-god/


Thank You Brother for posting this most edifying and true to scripture article:

Justification in the mind and purpose of God !
 

beloved57

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Justification is from everlasting because of the revealed chain of Salvation: Rom 8:29-30

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

The chain of salvation is eternally bound fast in God. For whom He foreknew He also predestinated. . . . and whom He predestinated He also called, and whom He called He also justified, and whom He justified He also glorified, (verses 29 and 30). The viewpoint is not of what takes place in time, but of what is established already in the counsel of God’s will. The elect are not only foreknown and predestinated, but they are also called and justified and glorified in God’s eternal decree. Nothing can change that established fact.
C.Hanko
 

beloved57

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“Not Imputing Their Trespasses”​

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
(2 Corinthians 5:19)
This was what he resolved upon from all eternity, that inasmuch as Christ was become the surety and substitute of his people, he would not impute their sins to them, or look for satisfaction for them from them; but would reckon and place them to the account of their surety, and expect satisfaction from him; and accordingly he did, and accordingly he had it. And this will, not to impute sin to his people, or not to punish for it, which existed in God from everlasting, is no other than a justification of them; for to whom the Lord does not impute sin, he imputes righteousness, and such are properly justified. John Gill
 

Nanja

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“Not Imputing Their Trespasses”​

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
(2 Corinthians 5:19)
This was what he resolved upon from all eternity, that inasmuch as Christ was become the surety and substitute of his people, he would not impute their sins to them, or look for satisfaction for them from them; but would reckon and place them to the account of their surety, and expect satisfaction from him; and accordingly he did, and accordingly he had it. And this will, not to impute sin to his people, or not to punish for it, which existed in God from everlasting, is no other than a justification of them; for to whom the Lord does not impute sin, he imputes righteousness, and such are properly justified. John Gill
Amen Brother, excellent!
 
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