Jesus versus Mohammed: Fun Facts

HisServant

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It is a mirror picture of Christianity, isn't?

Does the call to "Holy War" against Muslims by Pope Urban in 1095 ring the bell?

What about the German and Italian Christians butchering other country Christians in the WW II?

You need to separate the culture from the religion (which was almost impossible back in the dark ages)... and during the Nazi regime.

I would never have condoned any of what you mention, and I think the majority of Christians today feel the same way.

The problem is that the Muslims have not learned the difficult lesson that the Christians learned back then... when government/culture is led by religious nuts, mass slaughter is inevitable.
 

jerzy

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You need to separate the culture from the religion (which was almost impossible back in the dark ages)... and during the Nazi regime.

This is much more difficult to do it today.

I would never have condoned any of what you mention, and I think the majority of Christians today feel the same way.

You are totally wrong.

The problem is that the Muslims have not learned the difficult lesson that the Christians learned back then... when government/culture is led by religious nuts, mass slaughter is inevitable.

What you think the Christian Church chaplains do in armies? Who pays them?

I am not defending Islam in any way but merely pointing out the causes and similarities.
 

jerzy

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hmmm you need a little historical correction on the Crusades.

They were defensive wars.

Which of Jesus' examples or teachings they followed, you would say?

What if God wanted to punish Christianity for their sins: paganism and barbarism?

Psa 34:21 Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.

Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
 

Nazaroo

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egyptianmuslim

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Around here so-called conservatives believe that your faith can be reformed :turbo: so that Muslims do not continue to murder people (Mt 7:20). :plain:

Do you think he is rethinking your :CRASH: religion? Ge 16:12 Perhaps he is having a come to Jesus moment? Jn 14:6 :Shimei:

'Egypt's Al-Sissi deserves the Nobel Prize for speech on Islamic extremism'

See:

Islam

No need to reform Islam we need to reform the mind of the people
we Muslims should respect the beliefs of others.
 

egyptianmuslim

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So Muhammad replaced one god with another (or many to one)... other than that, what did he do that was beneficial other than conquest by the sword which just comes down to murder and confiscation of others property for his own wealth. (which seems to be his legacy down through the ages... everyone must submit to his tribe and if don't.. just go ahead and kill them and take their worldly goods).

It really is a poor religion, based on works alone.

Jesus was a jew and he practicised Judaism, was he a beneficial man to Judaism"as religion", how?
 

HisServant

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Jesus was a jew and he practicised Judaism, was he a beneficial man to Judaism"as religion", how?

He came to show the Jews (who were hard headed and had perverted his fathers teachings) the error of their ways and to remove the necessity for Jews to offer blood sacrifices for their atonement...

So yes, he was extremely beneficial for the Jews that understood who he really was... then to be even more beneficial, he extended the promises that his father made to Abraham to every single person on the planet that would listen to his gospel.

He also removed racism and sexism from his followers by proclaiming that it didn't matter if you were Jew or Greek, male or female, he would treat them all equally. (after all, they are all equally his creation).
 

Crowns&Laurels

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hmmm you need a little historical correction on the Crusades.

They were defensive wars.

The real crime in that regard was the sacking of Constantinople
(Christian vs Christian).

They were defensive to a large extent, but Christendom took it a bit too far. Them sacking themselves is only one side of that.
 

egyptianmuslim

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He came to show the Jews (who were hard headed and had perverted his fathers teachings) the error of their ways and to remove the necessity for Jews to offer blood sacrifices for their atonement...

So yes, he was extremely beneficial for the Jews that understood who he really was... then to be even more beneficial, he extended the promises that his father made to Abraham to every single person on the planet that would listen to his gospel.

He also removed racism and sexism from his followers by proclaiming that it didn't matter if you were Jew or Greek, male or female, he would treat them all equally. (after all, they are all equally his creation).

That is Good and in agreement with Quran
3:47. Mary said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a

son when no man has touched me." He said: "So

(it will be) for Allah creates what He wills.

When He has decreed something, He says to it

only: "Be!" and it is.

48. And He (Allah) will teach him ['Iesa

(Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the

Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets,

wisdom, etc.), (and) the Taurat (Torah) and the

Injeel (Gospel).

49. And will make him ['Iesa (Jesus)] a

Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): "I

have come to you with a sign from your Lord,

that I design for you out of clay, as it were,

the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and

it becomes a bird by Allah's Leave; and I heal

him who was born blind, and the leper, and I

bring the dead to life by Allah's Leave. And I

inform you of what you eat, and what you store

in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for

you, if you believe.

50. And I have come confirming that which was

before me of the Taurat (Torah), and to make

lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you,
and I have come to you with a proof from your

Lord. So fear Allah and obey me.

51. Truly! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so

worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path.



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Muhammed"by help of God" destroyed idols in all

Arab region and clean it from idolatery,and he

confirmed daniel prophecy about destruction

Persian Imperial who worship other than God


The Bible - Daniel 2:1-45
1
And in the second year of the reign of

Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams,

wherewith his spirit was troubled, and his sleep

brake from him.

2
Then the king commanded to call the magicians,

and the astrologers, and the sorcerers, and the

Chaldeans, for to shew the king his dreams. So

they came and stood before the king.

3
And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a

dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the

dream.

4
Then spake the Chaldeans to the king in Syriack,

O king, live for ever: tell thy servants the

dream, and we will shew the interpretation.

5
The king answered and said to the Chaldeans, The

thing is gone from me: if ye will not make known

unto me the dream, with the interpretation

thereof, ye shall be cut in pieces, and your

houses shall be made a dunghill.

6
But if ye shew the dream, and the interpretation

thereof, ye shall receive of me gifts and

rewards and great honour: therefore shew me the

dream, and the interpretation thereof.

7
They answered again and said, Let the king tell

his servants the dream, and we will shew the

interpretation of it.

8
The king answered and said, I know of certainty

that ye would gain the time, because ye see the

thing is gone from me.

9
But if ye will not make known unto me the dream,

there is but one decree for you: for ye have

prepared lying and corrupt words to speak before

me, till the time be changed: therefore tell me

the dream, and I shall know that ye can shew me

the interpretation thereof.

10
The Chaldeans answered before the king, and

said, There is not a man upon the earth that can

shew the king's matter: therefore there is no

king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at

any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.

11
And it is a rare thing that the king requireth,

and there is none other that can shew it before

the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not

with flesh.

12
For this cause the king was angry and very

furious, and commanded to destroy all the wise

men of Babylon.

13
And the decree went forth that the wise men

should be slain; and they sought Daniel and his

fellows to be slain.

14
Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to

Arioch the captain of the king's guard, which

was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon:

15
He answered and said to Arioch the king's

captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the

king? Then Arioch made the thing known to

Daniel.

16
Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king

that he would give him time, and that he would

shew the king the interpretation.

17
Then Daniel went to his house, and made the

thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,

his companions:

18
That they would desire mercies of the God of

heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and

his fellows should not perish with the rest of

the wise men of Babylon.

19
Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a

night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of

heaven.

20
Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of

God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are

his:

21
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he

removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth

wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that

know understanding:

22
He revealeth the deep and secret things: he

knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light

dwelleth with him.

23
I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my

fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and

hast made known unto me now what we desired of

thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the

king's matter.

24
Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the

king had ordained to destroy the wise men of

Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy

not the wise men of Babylon: bring me in before

the king, and I will shew unto the king the

interpretation.

25
Then Arioch brought in Daniel before the king in

haste, and said thus unto him, I have found a

man of the captives of Judah, that will make

known unto the king the interpretation.

26
The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name

was Belteshazzar, Art thou able to make known

unto me the dream which I have seen, and the

interpretation thereof?

27
Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and

said, The secret which the king hath demanded

cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the

magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king;

28
But there is a God in heaven that revealeth

secrets, and maketh known to the king

Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days.

Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy

bed, are these;

29
As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy

mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass

hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh

known to thee what shall come to pass.

30
But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me

for any wisdom that I have more than any living,

but for their sakes that shall make known the

interpretation to the king, and that thou

mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.

31
Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image.

This great image, whose brightness was

excellent, stood before thee; and the form

thereof was terrible.

32
This image's head was of fine gold, his breast

and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs

of brass,

33
His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part

of clay.

34
Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out

without hands, which smote the image upon his

feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them

to pieces.

35
Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the

silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together,

and became like the chaff of the summer

threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away,

that no place was found for them: and the stone

that smote the image became a great mountain,

and filled the whole earth.

36
This is the dream; and we will tell the

interpretation thereof before the king.

37
Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God

of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and

strength, and glory.

38
And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the

beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven

hath he given into thine hand, and hath made

thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of

gold.

39
And after thee shall arise another kingdom

inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of

brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

40
And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:

forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and

subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh

all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

41
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part

of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom

shall be divided; but there shall be in it of

the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou

sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42
And as the toes of the feet were part of iron,

and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly

strong, and partly broken.

43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry

clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed

of men: but they shall not cleave one to

another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44
And in the days of these kings shall the God of

heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be

destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to

other people, but it shall break in pieces and

consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand

for ever.


45
Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut

out of the mountain without hands, and that it

brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay,

the silver, and the gold; the great God hath

made known to the king what shall come to pass

hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the

interpretation thereof sure


-----------

Muhammed as a messenger from God taught the
religion to us and cleared all the things no any

Muslim is confused about his religion , we

Muslims bow down to God more than 33 times/ day

------------
Remember that Muslims bow down to God more than 33 times/day

Now my question to You:

As you said before, Jesus kept Judaism religion but John 14:6 says "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me "

Does John 14:6 mean that we must bow down to Jesus, does it work with Judaism?
 

patrick jane

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That is Good and in agreement with Quran
3:47. Mary said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a

son when no man has touched me." He said: "So

(it will be) for Allah creates what He wills.

When He has decreed something, He says to it

only: "Be!" and it is.

48. And He (Allah) will teach him ['Iesa

(Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the

Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets,

wisdom, etc.), (and) the Taurat (Torah) and the

Injeel (Gospel).

49. And will make him ['Iesa (Jesus)] a

Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): "I

have come to you with a sign from your Lord,

that I design for you out of clay, as it were,

the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and

it becomes a bird by Allah's Leave; and I heal

him who was born blind, and the leper, and I

bring the dead to life by Allah's Leave. And I

inform you of what you eat, and what you store

in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for

you, if you believe.

50. And I have come confirming that which was

before me of the Taurat (Torah), and to make

lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you,

and I have come to you with a proof from your

Lord. So fear Allah and obey me.

51. Truly! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so

worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path.
---------
Muhammed"by help of God" destroyed idols in all

Arab region and clean it from idolatery,and

confirmed daniel prophecy about destruction

Persian Imperial who worship other than God

The Bible - Daniel 2:1-45
1
And in the second year of the reign of

Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams,

wherewith his spirit was troubled, and his sleep

brake from him.

2
Then the king commanded to call the magicians,

and the astrologers, and the sorcerers, and the

Chaldeans, for to shew the king his dreams. So

they came and stood before the king.

3
And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a

dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the

dream.

4
Then spake the Chaldeans to the king in Syriack,

O king, live for ever: tell thy servants the

dream, and we will shew the interpretation.

5
The king answered and said to the Chaldeans, The

thing is gone from me: if ye will not make known

unto me the dream, with the interpretation

thereof, ye shall be cut in pieces, and your

houses shall be made a dunghill.

6
But if ye shew the dream, and the interpretation

thereof, ye shall receive of me gifts and

rewards and great honour: therefore shew me the

dream, and the interpretation thereof.

7
They answered again and said, Let the king tell

his servants the dream, and we will shew the

interpretation of it.

8
The king answered and said, I know of certainty

that ye would gain the time, because ye see the

thing is gone from me.

9
But if ye will not make known unto me the dream,

there is but one decree for you: for ye have

prepared lying and corrupt words to speak before

me, till the time be changed: therefore tell me

the dream, and I shall know that ye can shew me

the interpretation thereof.

10
The Chaldeans answered before the king, and

said, There is not a man upon the earth that can

shew the king's matter: therefore there is no

king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at

any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.

11
And it is a rare thing that the king requireth,

and there is none other that can shew it before

the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not

with flesh.

12
For this cause the king was angry and very

furious, and commanded to destroy all the wise

men of Babylon.

13
And the decree went forth that the wise men

should be slain; and they sought Daniel and his

fellows to be slain.

14
Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to

Arioch the captain of the king's guard, which

was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon:

15
He answered and said to Arioch the king's

captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the

king? Then Arioch made the thing known to

Daniel.

16
Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king

that he would give him time, and that he would

shew the king the interpretation.

17
Then Daniel went to his house, and made the

thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,

his companions:

18
That they would desire mercies of the God of

heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and

his fellows should not perish with the rest of

the wise men of Babylon.

19
Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a

night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of

heaven.

20
Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of

God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are

his:

21
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he

removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth

wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that

know understanding:

22
He revealeth the deep and secret things: he

knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light

dwelleth with him.

23
I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my

fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and

hast made known unto me now what we desired of

thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the

king's matter.

24
Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the

king had ordained to destroy the wise men of

Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy

not the wise men of Babylon: bring me in before

the king, and I will shew unto the king the

interpretation.

25
Then Arioch brought in Daniel before the king in

haste, and said thus unto him, I have found a

man of the captives of Judah, that will make

known unto the king the interpretation.

26
The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name

was Belteshazzar, Art thou able to make known

unto me the dream which I have seen, and the

interpretation thereof?

27
Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and

said, The secret which the king hath demanded

cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the

magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king;

28
But there is a God in heaven that revealeth

secrets, and maketh known to the king

Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days.

Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy

bed, are these;

29
As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy

mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass

hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh

known to thee what shall come to pass.

30
But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me

for any wisdom that I have more than any living,

but for their sakes that shall make known the

interpretation to the king, and that thou

mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.

31
Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image.

This great image, whose brightness was

excellent, stood before thee; and the form

thereof was terrible.

32
This image's head was of fine gold, his breast

and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs

of brass,

33
His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part

of clay.

34
Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out

without hands, which smote the image upon his

feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them

to pieces.

35
Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the

silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together,

and became like the chaff of the summer

threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away,

that no place was found for them: and the stone

that smote the image became a great mountain,

and filled the whole earth.

36
This is the dream; and we will tell the

interpretation thereof before the king.

37
Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God

of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and

strength, and glory.

38
And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the

beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven

hath he given into thine hand, and hath made

thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of

gold.

39
And after thee shall arise another kingdom

inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of

brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

40
And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:

forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and

subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh

all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

41
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part

of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom

shall be divided; but there shall be in it of

the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou

sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42
And as the toes of the feet were part of iron,

and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly

strong, and partly broken.

43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry

clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed

of men: but they shall not cleave one to

another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44
And in the days of these kings shall the God of

heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be

destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to

other people, but it shall break in pieces and

consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand

for ever.

45
Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut

out of the mountain without hands, and that it

brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay,

the silver, and the gold; the great God hath

made known to the king what shall come to pass

hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the

interpretation thereof sure

-----------

Muhammed as a messenger from God taught the

religion to Us and clear all the things no any

Muslim isn`t confused about his faith , we

Muslims bow down to God more than 33 times/ day

------------
Remember that Muslims bow down to God more than 33 times/day

Now my question to You:

As you said before, Jesus kept Judaism religion but John 14:6 says "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me "

Does John 14:6 mean that we must bow down to Jesus, does it work with Judaism?

EM - i beg you to read The New Testamant - start with Acts thru Jude. study it. understand it. then read the gospels again. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. then you will understand Revelation better. set aside your book for a few weeks and dive into the Christian NT. whatever language is easier for you to read. please, and you may answer your own questions. and have better questions later. your Quran will still be with you, just put it down for a bit. Jesus Christ Is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. the only way to return to God is through Jesus Christ. EVERY knee Shall Bow To Jesus Christ ! ! ! the sooner you know, the better. - :patrol:
 

Angel4Truth

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It is prohibited by Quran to compare between them because both of them are from God

The Quran that says Allah has no son, and Jesus is the Son of God. Compare them and its easily shown which is true and which is false. No wonder your book doesnt ask you to test all things like ours does.

There is no photo for Muhammed. Is it truely the photo of Jesus?

Of course there is no photo of Muhammad or Jesus, there was no such thing as photography when they walked the earth.

Some people liken this to being an image of Christ though:

turin-shroud_2521848b.jpg
 

JosephR

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True "after my addition".

Father Abraham has 3 sons.....
the first Born....

The North and The South..

the 3 hate each other yet all three are taught love...

mercy before the Law,spoke Isaiah.Spoken by Jesus and by Muhammad.

the Father is not going to be happy...
 
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