Johnny said:
I threw a qualifier in there for you. However, odds are in my favor that you're not an orthodox Jew. Do you profess to follow the law?
I'm talking about criminal justice not religious ritual. I'm talking about what the law of the land should be not whether we should be Jews. What planet are you on?
I know there is some support for the death penalty, but I'd like to see support for the death penalty for homosexuals, rapists, and child-molesters. Because there is "lots" of support for execution of those guilty of "such crimes". References please.
If you had read it you would know already. I'm not here to give you a Bible lesson. You claim to be a Christian and so should now this stuff already or else should keep your mouth shut about things which you know nothing about.
No you don't, or else this conversation would not be possible. You might read Bible studies or selected verses but I'd wager you've not even tried to read the Bible to find out what it is actually saying. You wouldn't like it if you did judging by your position on this thread. You are almost certainly the typical sort of Bible reader who is more interested in what his pastor thinks the Bible is saying or what a favorite author thinks about what the Bible plainly says.
Another empty, unsupported claim. I haven't called God unjust.
Of course you did.
God already placed a death sentence on all mankind in the garden. Do not fool yourself. A liar is in no better standing with God than a child molester.
You don't see it because you don't know what justice is. You think God isn't concerned with the details but I assure you He is. There's more to the way God deals with mankind than simply the distinction between saved and unsaved.
It's still our own words. Further, as I have argued, the judgement of "stupidity" is always quite subjective.
It makes no difference. We are not commanded to use only the verbiage that is found in the Bible. We are to tell the truth, period.
Demonstrate that. I hate to break it to you, but insulting someone's character isn't considered part of the gospel. The gospel of Enyartians, perhaps, but not the gospel of Christ.
Demonstrate what, that you water down the gospel? You just did it by asking this question! The gospel is at its core an insult to your character! People do not get saved until they understand that they are lost. If you are not telling people that if they do not repent and believe that they will go to Hell forever then you are not telling them the gospel.
Don't you get it? What Bob Enyart does and what I do isn't about insulting people for the sake of insulting them. It's not about getting an itch to be mean to somebody and just finding the nearest faggot and throwing insults around until we feel better. It's about repentance, its about drawing a line between what is right and what is evil and responding to sins in a way that reflect the severity of the sin. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that all sins are the same, nor does it teach that all sins should be treated equally. Some sins are much more than sins, they are crimes and should dealt with much differently.
In the case of homoism it is not simply a crime either, it is a capital crime. As Christians our strategy toward the homo should be three fold.
1. We should aggressively push for the recriminalization of being a homo.
2. We should attach and attempt to spread as much as possible a strong social stigma against being a homo.
3. We should make every effort to cause individual homos to repent. (Which is impossible to do without telling them that there is something wrong with them, by the way).
And it should be in that order because as you go up the list it effects a greater and greater number of people, from an individual pervert at number 3 all the way to a whole society at number 1.
Love one another. Love is kind...
Telling a pervert that he is disgusting in such a way to really effectively communicate the emotion is the kindest thing you could possibly do for a homo aside from prosecuting him executing him.
II Timothy 2 "24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."
Respond to that please.
This is a disgusting perversion of the word of God. Do you know what context means? Do you have any idea how to read more than two or three verses at a time? Have you any clue how to stay on the same page that the author is on while reading the Bible? Judging from your application of this verse to murderous perverted faggots, I know the answer already.
This passage is not talking about how to deal with perverts, rapists and murderers.
Now, I'm through discussing this with you. You aren't interested in figuring this out anyhow. I just wish I could get you to stop calling yourself a Christian. You don't know what the word even means. You're a wolf is sheep's clothing. You take the side of rapists and child-molesters pretending as though what they've done is the equivalent of, in your own words, "a white lie" in the eyes of God. That is blasphemy. You do not know God, you do not know Jesus Christ, you are not a practicing Christian and you don't know the very first thing about the gospel and so I doubt very much that you are even saved. I doubt your sincerity, I doubt your motives and I doubt your loyalties. You are doing more harm than good and should do everyone around you a favor and go lock yourself in your bedroom and keep you mouth shut about things you don't know anything about. Hell has plenty of people in it without your help, thank you very much.
Resting in Him,
Clete
