One is not spiritually dead because of Adam's sin but because of our own sin.
Ezekiel 18 The word of the Lord came to me again, saying, 2 “What do you mean when you use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying:‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes,And the children’s teeth are set on edge’?3 “As I live,” says the Lord God, “you shall no longer use this proverb in Israel.4 “Behold, all souls are Mine;The soul of the fatherAs well as the soul of the son is Mine;The soul who sins shall die.19 “Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. 20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
It is truly an amazing and completely inexplicable thing that the doctrine of Original Sin exists at all. It simply cannot survive even a cursory reading of Ezekiel 18.
The question is when the soul dies. And it says soul, not spirit. If you count them together, which I think they are, then it still doesn't say the "soul" dies immediately on sinning. In fact, there are some Judgments coming up that will determine what happens. We may be condemned to death when we sin, but I see no proof that the soul or spirit dies until the day of Judgment.
Then there's the book of Romans...
Romans 7:9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died."I was alive once..." - (note the past tense that Paul uses here) - I can't image how it could be any clearer than that! I honestly am quite flabbergasted by the near universal acceptance of "Original Sin" throughout Christianity. You, in a previous post, seemed to suggest that its a Catholic thing, and it is but it isn't just the Catholics that believe this nonsense, it's virtually the whole of the Christian church that teaches it in one form or another. Calvinists call it "Total Hereditary Depravity" but it's virtually the exact same doctrine.
Paul was speaking of how it is under the law. There is no death of spirit involved.
That is a surmise, but nothing more than that. "Something about his nature..." Conjecture.So, no it hasn't anything to do with Adam's sin, at least not directly. When Adam sinned, he didn't just die spiritually but something about his very nature was altered. This altered nature is what Paul referred to as "the flesh" and this "fleshly nature" is passed from one generation to the next through the father. Jesus then, having been born of a virgin and without an earthly father was born without "the flesh" and was, being without spot or blemish, qualified to be the sacrifice for sin.
We are no different than Adam. What changed was sin "entered the world".
The fact remains, however, that we regular people have "the flesh" to deal with because we do have earthly fathers who are descended from fallen Adam and so our instinct is to rebel. We are, however, alive to God in spite of this fleshly condition and are only cut off from God when we choose to rebel against Him and sin (Romans 7:9).
Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man You' and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.
Adam's sin had consequences that needed dealt with and God did deal with them at Calvary. Thus, to whatever extent death is passed from father to son, Christ fixed that with His own death. Therefore, God, knowing that Calvary was coming, only ever held / holds people accountable for THEIR OWN SIN (Ezekiel 18), not Adam's.
Your premise is not supported by scripture.
What a buffoon. I "whine like a seven year old"?No, not at all!
I have no issue with insults when they are earned. You whine like a seven year old about being insulted and act like I'm sort of awful person because I am not afraid to point out stupidity when I see it and then you turn around and do the very thing that you condemn me for doing.
Hypocrisy is a sin, glorydaz, or don't you care about that?
So stop one or the other! Either stop with the vapid insults that are obviously based in nothing more substantive than your emotions or shut up about my insulting you when you say things that any third grader and see are incoherent nonsense.
I laugh at your childish temper tantrums. And hypocrite? You gotta be looking in the mirror.