Satan doesn't test us, and GOD doesn't put us through what we cannot bare.
You spoke of the fear part yourself initially.
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Passions and desires have little to do with emotions, and much to do with greed.
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Job 1: 8. And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? 9. Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? 10. Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. 11. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. 12. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.I said
You still have a lot to learn.
[Luk 22:31-32
31 And the Lord said, "Simon, Simon! Indeed, Satan has asked for you, that he may sift [you] as wheat.
32 "But I have prayed for you, that your faith should not fail; and when you have returned to [Me], strengthen your brethren."
I said
Passions are emotions.
[Gal 5:17, 19-21
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. ...
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told [you] in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
[Gal 5:24
24 And those [who are] Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Silly....show where satan tests us.
Job 1: 8. And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? 9. Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? 10. Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. 11. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. 12. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
(We see here that satan is given power by GOD. Indeed the Lord GOD formed satan, and satan does the will of GOD.) All things will come to glorify GOD.
Job 2: 3. And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. 4. And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. 5. But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. 6. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. 10. But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.
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So you have no desire to follow Christ? How are you lead to act without having any want to do so whatsoever?
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You just proved my point in the old testament with scripture, and I proved my point in the new testament with scripture.
How are led with no desire or will to follow?I am led by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the one who gave me them scriptures. Proof.
How are led with no desire or will to follow?
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Affection is not synonimous with action or will. You have not answered me. What motivates you to follow the Spirit that leads you if you have no passion or emotion or reason to follow due to indifference?I said
I am led by the Holy Spirit. And my affections.
[Jhn 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Affection is not synonimous with action or will. You have not answered me. What motivates you to follow the Spirit that leads you if you have no passion or emotion or reason to follow due to indifference?
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"And your inner man makes a choice of which one to follow."I said
That did answer your question if you know what affections are.
AFFECTIONS (CALM DELIGHT JOY,SHAME,WEEPING,Pity ADORN OR SADNESS AND COMPASSION) (NO DESIRE OR NEED)
(FROM YOUR SOUL, YOUR INNER MAN)
Phil 2:1-2
1Therefore if there is any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and mercy,
2fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
Col 3:12-14
12Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering;
13bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do.
14But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection.
Phile 1:7
7For we have great joy and consolation in your love, because the hearts of the saints have been refreshed by you, brother.
2 Cor 6:12
12You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own passions.
1Thes 2:4-8
4But as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, even so we speak, not as pleasing men, but God who tests our hearts.
5For neither at any time did we use flattering words, as you know, nor a cloak for covetousness-- God is witness.
6Nor did we seek glory from men, either from you or from others, when we might have made demands as apostles of Christ.
7But we were gentle among you, just as a nursing mother cherishes her own children.
8So, affectionately longing for you, we were well pleased to impart to you not only the gospel of God, but also our own lives, because you had become dear to us.
Rom 12:10-13
10Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another;
11not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord;
12rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer;
13distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality.
Col 3:5
5Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.
Phil 1:2-8
2Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,
4always in every prayer of mine making request for you all with joy,
5for your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now,
6being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
7just as it is right for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart, inasmuch as both in my chains and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel, you all are partakers with me of grace.
8For God is my witness, how greatly I long for you all with the affection of Jesus Christ.
John 11:35
35Jesus wept.
Luke 19:41
41Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it,
Rom 12:15
15Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep.
John 20:11
11But Mary stood outside by the tomb weeping, and as she wept she stooped down and looked into the tomb.
Mark 14:72
72And a second time the rooster crowed. Then Peter called to mind the word that Jesus had said to him, "Before the rooster crows twice, you will deny Me three times." And when he thought about it, he wept.
2 Tim 1:1-5
1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,
2To Timothy, a beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
3I thank God, whom I serve with a pure conscience, as my forefathers did, as without ceasing I remember you in my prayers night and day,
4greatly desiring to see you, being mindful of your tears, that I may be filled with joy,
5when I call to remembrance the genuine faith that is in you, which dwelt first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice, and I am persuaded is in you also.
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xxx You have an inner man, and an outer person. Your inner man is your spirit and soul. Your spirit is the mind of your inner man and your soul is the body of your inner man. Affections come from your soul. Your outer person is where all other spirits dwell. Your guardian angel, the devil, your emotions(unclean spirits) and even the Holy Spirit. When you think- your inner man is listening to everybody elses opinions inside yourself. And your inner man makes a choice of which one to follow.
2 Cor 7:14-16
14For if in anything I have boasted to him about you, I am not ashamed. But as we spoke all things to you in truth, even so our boasting to Titus was found true.
15And his affections are greater for you as he remembers the obedience of you all, how with fear and trembling you received him.
16Therefore I rejoice that I have confidence in you in everything.
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2 Tim 3:1-5
1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(KJV)
"And your inner man makes a choice of which one to follow."
Your inner man cannot make a choice if it doesn't have emotional and intellectual capacity.
How do you choose to follow Christ if you aren't emotionally and intellectually invested in HIS motive through your GOD given capacities?
If one is lead by the Spirit then they have heard and do believe. To believe a thing has emotional implications and intellectual ones. Yet you deny both and claim you are lead yet are indifferent due to lack of emotion and intellect.
If I don't really care or believe someone is going to die then what motive would I have e to help them?
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EvasionI said
So much confusion, so many questions, You don't seem to have any idea of who the inner man is.
Evasion
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I have no problem understanding you or the subject. Though lessons can be learned from perceived evil; we are not tested by satan, and fear is a poor reason to claim bias and ignorance to be truth. Neither are scriptural either.I said
It doesn't do any good to even talk if both parties cant understand the subject.
I have no problem understanding you or the subject. Though lessons can be learned from perceived evil; we are not tested by satan, and fear is a poor reason to claim bias and ignorance to be truth. Neither are scriptural either.
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Maybe you didn't notice the fact that not a single verse you supplied mentioned emotions.I said
UNCLEAN SPIRITS-DEMONS (EMOTIONS)
Rom 7:23-24
23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
Rom 7:15-21
15For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.
16If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.
17But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.
19For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice.
20Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
21I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.
Matt 5:28-30
28"But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
29"If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
30"And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
Gal 5:24
24And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Eph 2:2-3
2in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
3among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
Rom 8:5-8
5For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
8So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
James 4:7-8
7Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
8Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
1 Pet 5:8-9
8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
9Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.
2 Tim 2:26
26and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
1 Pet 5:10
10But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you.
Matt 8:28-34
28When He had come to the other side, to the country of the Gergesenes, there met Him two demon-possessed men, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one could pass that way.
29And suddenly they cried out, saying, "What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?"
30Now a good way off from them there was a herd of many swine feeding.
31So the demons begged Him, saying, "If You cast us out, permit us to go away into the herd of swine."
32And He said to them, "Go." So when they had come out, they went into the herd of swine. And suddenly the whole herd of swine ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and perished in the water.
33Then those who kept them fled; and they went away into the city and told everything, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men.
34And behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus. And when they saw Him, they begged Him to depart from their region.
Mark 5:2-13
2And when He had come out of the boat, immediately there met Him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no one could bind him, not even with chains,
4because he had often been bound with shackles and chains. And the chains had been pulled apart by him, and the shackles broken in pieces; neither could anyone tame him.
5And always, night and day, he was in the mountains and in the tombs, crying out and cutting himself with stones.
6When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him.
7And he cried out with a loud voice and said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God that You do not torment me."
8For He said to him, "Come out of the man, unclean spirit!"
9Then He asked him, "What is your name?" And he answered, saying, "My name is Legion; for we are many."
10Also he begged Him earnestly that He would not send them out of the country.
11Now a large herd of swine was feeding there near the mountains.
12So all the demons begged Him, saying, "Send us to the swine, that we may enter them."
13And at once Jesus gave them permission. Then the unclean spirits went out and entered the swine (there were about two thousand); and the herd ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and drowned in the sea.
Gal 5:18-24
18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
21envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
24And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
(NKJ)
XXX Every emotion in you is a separate unclean spirit. The Holy Spirit is separate from your spirit. And the Holy Spirit will never work through your emotions. Now the fruits of the HOly Spirit are all affections. And when the Holy Spirit gives you a verse He will always lead you against your emotions. Then you will be walking in love. Everyone inherits emotions from their Dad. If he didnt get rid of his spirits you will inherit them. Then you must get rid of them so you dont pass them on to your children.
Luke 9:54-55
54And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?"
55But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of.
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Luke 6:17-18
17And He came down with them and stood on a level place with a crowd of His disciples and a great multitude of people from all Judea and Jerusalem, and from the seacoast of Tyre and Sidon, who came to hear Him and be healed of their diseases,
18as well as those who were tormented with unclean spirits. And they were healed.
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Acts 5:16
16Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed.
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2 Pet 2:8-9
8(for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)--
9then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,
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Mark 5:6-8
6When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him.
7And he cried out with a loud voice and said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God that You do not torment me."
8For He said to him, "Come out of the man, unclean spirit!"
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I Jn 4:18
18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.
(NKJ)
Maybe you didn't notice the fact that not a single verse you supplied mentioned emotions.
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