xfrodobagginsx
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I think the words infinite understanding prove you wrong.
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That's because you don't want to be convinced otherwise. That English translation of a Hebrew idiom, which you ignore the real meaning of, is the straw you're grasping at, trying to cling to unbiblical doctrines that you love more than the truth. Go look up the phrase "confirmation bias". It takes courage, effort and real faith (i.e. the biblical kind of faith) to go wherever the actual evidence leads. You've gone somewhere else and intend to remain there. God Himself couldn't convince you otherwise. Indeed, the biblical pattern would suggest that the harder He tried, the more fiercely you'd rebel. The God of Plato is a beautifully seductive thing.
The simple objective fact is that they do not prove me wrong. The reality of the situation is that I just proved to you that they DO NOT prove me wrong, which is the entire point of studying something. I showed it to you, step by step, word by word. The whole reason we bother to study God's word in the first place is to see whether what we want to believe is what we ought to believe. If reading whatever we like into the text counts as "study" then what's the point? If the words in the bible don't really mean what they ACTUALLY mean but instead mean whatever we want to read into them, then what's the point in even reading it at all? You might as well go get a copy of Gone With the Wind and make that the basis of your doctrine. Better yet, you could pull a Joseph Smith and just go write down your doctrine somewhere and call that scripture. Fundamentally, that is what you're doing, albeit to a lesser degree and without intention.
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You never answered this question: Did God know that Abraham would be willing to sacrifice his only son Isaac?
Gen 22:11-12 (AKJV/PCE)
(22:11) And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here [am] I. (22:12) And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only [son] from me.
xfrodobagginsx
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It's because I have common sense
xfrodobagginsx
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Yes He did, BUT all things must be demonstrated in reality.
I asked God since He knows all things, why does He make people prove themselves snd He said "All things must be demonstrated in reality" argue with Him if you don't like it. You're wrong on this.
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So, according to you, the text does not mean what it plainly says. There is no common sense there.
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Rom 15:14 (KJV) And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.
Define common sense!
You're either unable or unwilling to establish what you claim is common sense with anything more substantial that your own declaration of your doctrine and text-book examples of how to read that doctrine into the text of scripture.
Let me understand this claim.
Are suggesting that you asked God a question and you got a direct answer from God's lips to your ears.
Is that what you are claiming or was this some sort of figure of speech or what?
That's 100% a real question. I am not making fun of you or being sarcastic or anything like that.
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I feel like most people define "common sense" as whatever they want to believe.
Whereas, I think that we would define it as what is logically and obviously discernible.
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@xfrodobagginsx
Jer 32:35 (AKJV/PCE)
(32:35) And they built the high places of Baal, which [are] in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through [the fire] unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Jer 32:35 (AKJV/PCE)
(32:35) And they built the high places of Baal, which [are] in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through [the fire] unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
In actual practice, common sense is the use of sound practical judgment derived from experience rather than any sort specialized knowledge or training. It's the internal compass that helps people make everyday decisions in ordinary situations, without needing to stop and analyze everything in detail.
That's an amazingly important thing to have a grasp of. It's what make everyday life possible.
It's also precisely what one OUGHT NOT use to form their doctrine! Studying God's word is precisely about a search, not for what we feel like is true, not what we want to be true, but what is actually true. The practice of theology is very decidedly not an exercise in common sense, which is grounded in subjective human intuition and experience. Rather it is, or ought to be, an exercise is deliberately objective research into the details of God's word with the goal in mind of achieving a doctrine that can be demonstrated to be objectively true.
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I agree completely.
The point that I was trying to make is that frodo is making an illogical claim and then labeling that as "common sense".