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How did DNA originate?

marke

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That is something atheists and assorted Bible-rejecters cannot answer in scientific terms. Without intelligent design at the beginning DNA would have never become the essential part of life on earth that it is. But God-rejecters have no scientific clue where the intelligent design came from which created DNA. Francis Crick was awarded a Nobel Prize for his research into DNA, and he suggested DNA came to earth on spaceships piloted by aliens. I guess Crick refused to believe God designed and created life on earth just like the Bible says.
 

marke

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which came first the chicken or the egg , that is to say you need DNA to make DNA
That's right. God created DNA which was essential for DNA to provide reproduction of different life forms maintaining their different species through the reproductive genetic code.
 

marke

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Kinds and not species. Kinds is more general.
It's semantics. I read once that there are dozens of different classifications of species which researchers call "the species" problem because none of them completely agree among themselves. Wikipedia once had an article titled "The Species Problem." That was later changed to read "The Species Concept." Here is what is said:

The species problem is the set of questions that arises when biologists attempt to define what a species is. Such a definition is called a species concept; there are at least 26 recognized species concepts.[1] A species concept that works well for sexually reproducing organisms such as birds may be useless for species that reproduce asexually, such as bacteria. The scientific study of the species problem has been called microtaxonomy.[2]
 
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Right Divider

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It's semantics.
No, it's not.
I read once that there are dozens of different classifications of species which researchers call "the species" problem because none of them completely agree among themselves. Wikipedia once had an article titled "The Species Problem." That was later changed to read "The Species Concept." Here is what is said:

The species problem is the set of questions that arises when biologists attempt to define what a species is. Such a definition is called a species concept; there are at least 26 recognized species concepts.[1] A species concept that works well for sexually reproducing organisms such as birds may be useless for species that reproduce asexually, such as bacteria. The scientific study of the species problem has been called microtaxonomy.[2]
Yes, there is a significant different between KIND and SPECIES.

There are different species of elephant, but they are all clearly the elephant kind.
 
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marke

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No, it's not.

Yes, there is a significant different between KIND and SPECIES.

There are different species of elephant, but the are all clearly the elephant kind.
Again, you are right but not completely. Human classifications of "species" are muddled at best, but the Biblical designations of "kinds" are not muddled at all.
 

chair

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Again, you are right but not completely. Human classifications of "species" are muddled at best, but the Biblical designations of "kinds" are not muddled at all.
Where is the designation of "kinds" defined in the Bible?
 

marke

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Where is the designation of "kinds" defined in the Bible?
Species are not clearly defined in secular textbooks and kinds are not clearly defined in the Bible. I think it is common sense to believe kinds in the Bible pertain to different kinds of creatures that have maintained certain distinctions among themselves since the beginning. There is no evolution, especially from plant to animal or from animal to human.
 

Skeeter

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Amino Acids are found on meteorites. Amino Acid molecules readily link together in a tight bond. RNA is a single strand of amino acids. Areas of the RNA strand has weak attraction that will form weak bonds with anther strand. DNA is two strands wound together with weak bonds. This is the stuff of a chemical computer.
 

marke

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Amino Acids are found on meteorites. Amino Acid molecules readily link together in a tight bond. RNA is a single strand of amino acids. Areas of the RNA strand has weak attraction that will form weak bonds with anther strand. DNA is two strands wound together with weak bonds. This is the stuff of a chemical computer.
Miller and Urey created amino acids of sorts in the lab, but their experiment has done more to cause researchers to believe the abiogenesis of life on earth without input from outside earth is impossible. Making amino acids that cannot create life is nothing to brag about. It is like making robots that cannot reproduce through intercourse.
 

Right Divider

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Amino Acids are found on meteorites.
Yes, since the meteorites came from the earth to begin with.
Amino Acid molecules readily link together in a tight bond. RNA is a single strand of amino acids. Areas of the RNA strand has weak attraction that will form weak bonds with anther strand. DNA is two strands wound together with weak bonds. This is the stuff of a chemical computer.
Indeed, God's creation has many "computers".
 

Skeeter

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Miller and Urey created amino acids of sorts in the lab, but their experiment has done more to cause researchers to believe the abiogenesis of life on earth without input from outside earth is impossible.
Miller and Urey attempted to re-create the conditions of primordial Earth. In a flask, they combined ammonia, hydrogen, methane, and water vapor plus electrical sparks (Miller 1953). They found that new molecules were formed, and they identified these molecules as eleven standard amino acids. From this observation, they posited that the first organisms likely arose in an environment similar to the one they constructed in their flask, one rich in organic compounds, now widely described as the primordial soup. This hypothesis is further extended to the claim that, within this soup, single-celled organisms evolved.
 

ok doser

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Miller and Urey created amino acids of sorts in the lab, but their experiment has done more to cause researchers to believe the abiogenesis of life on earth without input from outside earth is impossible. Making amino acids that cannot create life is nothing to brag about. It is like making robots that cannot reproduce through intercourse.
I can show you a mass of amino acids that is in the exact proportion, along with the mass of proteins and carbohydrates and all of the other goodies that we know are 100% essential for life. And we still are unable in the lab to generate life from it.

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Idolater

"Never believe anyone who is not cross-examined."
I can show you a mass of amino acids that is in the exact proportion, along with the mass of proteins and carbohydrates and all of the other goodies that we know are 100% essential for life. And we still are unable in the lab to generate life from it.

Perfect!

. . . any second now new life will arise! Just a matter of time!
 
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