Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

Clete

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It's hopeless! You are all hopeless!

I cannot tell if you guys are intentionally lying or whether you actually believe that these vaccines are more dangerous than the virus.

This is worse even than the year and a half I spent trying to convince someone that the Earth isn't flat. Far far worse!

From one side I've got someone telling me that There are fools here now telling me that it shouldn't matter to me whether I live or die! Why shouldn't I care, they say? BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN!

This has turned now into, abject insanity!

Just totally shameful! All of you should be embarrassed.
 

marke

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It's hopeless! You are all hopeless!

I cannot tell if you guys are intentionally lying or whether you actually believe that these vaccines are more dangerous than the virus.

This is worse even than the year and a half I spent trying to convince someone that the Earth isn't flat. Far far worse!

From one side I've got someone telling me that There are fools here now telling me that it shouldn't matter to me whether I live or die! Why shouldn't I care, they say? BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN!

This has turned now into, abject insanity!

Just totally shameful! All of you should be embarrassed.
Claiming the covid shot is safe and effective is a lie. Government sites and supporters routinely ignore, dismiss or lie about the science that has proven the covid shots are risky and to too large a degree ineffective.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s vaccine advisory committee plans to hold an emergency meeting this month to discuss the higher than expected reports of heart inflammation in young males following a second dose of the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
The June 18 meeting will address the conditions that are very infrequent and have not been directly linked to the vaccines, the agency announced on June 10.
The first portion of the meeting will feature an update on COVID-19 vaccine safety, including myocarditis cases seen after the administration of vaccines built on messenger RNA technology, according to the meeting agenda.
Myocarditis is a rare disorder that leads to heart inflammation. Causes include the flu and COVID-19.
Rates of myocarditis and a similar condition, pericarditis, for those between the ages of 16 and 24 after vaccination with two of the three COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States are higher than the expected rate, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) disclosed in a meeting earlier Thursday.
The CDC has so far identified 226 reports in people ages 30 and younger that might meet the agency’s “working case definition” of heart inflammation following the shots, Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, a deputy director at the agency, told the Food and Drug Administration’s vaccine advisory group during a virtual meeting. That was out of about 12.2 million who had received a vaccine as of May 31.
While the vast majority of the patients have recovered, 41 had ongoing symptoms, 15 are still hospitalized, and three are in intensive care units.
Shimabukuro told members that the CDC will continue to evaluate myocarditis following vaccination and assess the benefits and risks of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, which both use mRNA technology, ahead of the emergency meeting next week.
 

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It's a figure of speech that you know the meaning of full well.

This sentence, therefore, was a lie. An intentional, lie. You should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.
I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of myself. Your emotions seem to get the best of you sometimes.
The simple, flat, plain and simple FACT is that the vaccines that are currently approved have gone through all of the testing that has been required for emergency use authorization for years and years and years.
Again, normal vaccines do NOT REQUIRE emergency use authorization.
 

way 2 go

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It's hopeless! You are all hopeless!

I cannot tell if you guys are intentionally lying or whether you actually believe that these vaccines are more dangerous than the virus.

This is worse even than the year and a half I spent trying to convince someone that the Earth isn't flat. Far far worse!

From one side I've got someone telling me that There are fools here now telling me that it shouldn't matter to me whether I live or die! Why shouldn't I care, they say? BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN!

This has turned now into, abject insanity!

Just totally shameful! All of you should be embarrassed.
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The European Union database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, and they are now reporting 20,595 fatalities, and 1,960,607 injuries, following COVID-19 injections. (49.4 % serious 968,870 )

name another vaccine that had these kinds of numbers
 

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Sweden is doing better

Sweden’s guidelines emphasize staying at home, testing, hand washing and social distancing. By April 2021, Sweden’s per-capita case counts and death rates were many times higher than any of its Nordic neighbors, all of which imposed lockdowns, travel bans and limited gatherings early on.

Overall, Sweden’s COVID-19 death rate of 142.5 per 100,000 population is well above neighbors Denmark (43.89), Finland (17.84), Norway (15.03) and Iceland (8.3), according to Johns Hopkins University.

 

marke

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Sweden’s guidelines emphasize staying at home, testing, hand washing and social distancing. By April 2021, Sweden’s per-capita case counts and death rates were many times higher than any of its Nordic neighbors, all of which imposed lockdowns, travel bans and limited gatherings early on.

Overall, Sweden’s COVID-19 death rate of 142.5 per 100,000 population is well above neighbors Denmark (43.89), Finland (17.84), Norway (15.03) and Iceland (8.3), according to Johns Hopkins University.

Once a population has been brainwashed the deluded will support bad policies no matter how massive the evidence that proves those policies are bad.

TOPLINE Some countries with the world’s highest vaccination rates are also battling devastating surges of Covid-19 and the highest death tolls, a worrying trend that has left experts and officials wondering whether successful inoculation drives have lulled governments into easing restrictions too soon and the public into a false sense of security.
 

Clete

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I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of myself. Your emotions seem to get the best of you sometimes.
Of course you're not! Why would you be ashamed of accusing me of thinking like a tyrant and then pretending like you don't understand what a common figure of speech means.
Again, normal vaccines do NOT REQUIRE emergency use authorization.
There has never been any such thing as a medication of any sort that has ever "required" emergency use authorization. The Johnson and Johnson vaccine is a "normal vaccine" (i.e. its not an MRNA vaccine) and it got emergency use authorization by the same means and for the same reason. Emergency use authorization is never "required". It is the need for the vaccines that prompted the EUA not the medication itself.

The fact is that there isn't any good reason to be scared of these treatments. There have been literally hundreds on millions of doses administered all over the world with next to no problems at all. Of course there have been some people who have had bad reactions but no one ever expected that there wouldn't be. These vaccines are at least as safe as vaccines that you have absolutely no problem with at all.

Clete
 

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There has never been any such thing as a medication of any sort that has ever "required" emergency use authorization. The Johnson and Johnson vaccine is a "normal vaccine" (i.e. its not an MRNA vaccine) and it got emergency use authorization by the same means and for the same reason. Emergency use authorization is never "required". It is the need for the vaccines that prompted the EUA not the medication itself.
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has not undergone the same type of review as an FDA-approved or cleared product.
FDA may issue an EUA when certain criteria are met, which includes that there are no adequate, approved, available alternatives

the vax was not tested against ivermectin , only placebo



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Vaccine efficacy is generally reported as a relative risk reduction (RRR). It uses the relative risk (RR)—ie, the ratio of attack rates with and without a vaccine—which is expressed as 1–RR. Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines. However, RRR should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID-19, which varies between populations and over time. Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.

The fact is that there isn't any good reason to be scared of these treatments. There have been literally hundreds on millions of doses administered all over the world with next to no problems at all. Of course there have been some people who have had bad reactions but no one ever expected that there wouldn't be. These vaccines are at least as safe as vaccines that you have absolutely no problem with at all.

Clete
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The European Union database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, and they are now reporting 20,595 fatalities, and 1,960,607 injuries, following COVID-19 injections. (49.4 % serious 968,870 )
 

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SARS-CoV-2 infection in minks has become a serious problem, as the virus may mutate and reinfect humans; some countries have decided to cull minks. Here, the virus sequencing data in minks were analysed and compared to those of human-virus. Although the mink-virus maintained the characteristics of human-virus, some variants rapidly mutated, adapting to minks. Some mink-derived variants infected humans, which accounted for 40% of the total SARS-CoV-2 cases in the Netherlands. These variants appear to be less lethal and infective compared to those in humans. Variants that have mutated further among minks were not found in humans. Such mink-virus might be suitable for vaccination for humans, such as in the case of the smallpox virus, which is less infective and toxic to humans.
 

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Accidental intravenous injections of BioNTech jabs may cause heart muscle inflammation, research conducted by the University of Hong Kong has found.

In the study, researchers injected the mRNA vaccine into the thigh muscles of mice via the standard intramuscular routes and compared the outcomes with those of mice injected with the intravenous route.

“We found that the heart of those mice receiving intravenous vaccine developed obvious myocarditis and pericarditis within 24 to 48 hours. This heart damage is greater even after a second dose of vaccination 14 days later,” according to the team.
 

marke

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Accidental intravenous injections of BioNTech jabs may cause heart muscle inflammation, research conducted by the University of Hong Kong has found.

In the study, researchers injected the mRNA vaccine into the thigh muscles of mice via the standard intramuscular routes and compared the outcomes with those of mice injected with the intravenous route.

“We found that the heart of those mice receiving intravenous vaccine developed obvious myocarditis and pericarditis within 24 to 48 hours. This heart damage is greater even after a second dose of vaccination 14 days later,” according to the team.
Such research findings are apparently no hindrance to the corrupted officials at the democrat FDA who must be getting big money under the table to approve such dangerous drugs as the covid shot.
 
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