Evolutionists are morons.
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I inhabit eternity compadre, nothing changes there. Oh man has become extraordinarily wise and knowledgable in the last 150 years hasn't he?...I enjoy all the genuine fruits of science and advanced technology that you do bud, not much escapes Tots when it comes to labour saving devices...but I don't believe in evolution of the species.
I thought you were a better informed person than this Barb.
The fact that all the evidence shows that we come from a single parentage not longer ago than the stone age does not prove creation. But it is in line with what the bible teaches.
What PROVES creation beyond a shadow of a doubt is re-creation, those of us who have been re-created testify to it...of course if you are not re-created you do not have this proof.
doloresistere
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If a common ancestor evolved into many robust lineages, it means it lacked all the tools to thrive that its descendants had. Therefore, it is unlikely that its population ever had a siZe large enough to make it into a fossil.
This Charming Manc
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Stripe has it ever occurred to you that everyone who doesn't agree with you is not a moron?
There is a thing called a differing opinion
There is a thing called a differing opinion
Lordkalvan
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Not that you've been able to show, Professor. Indeed, you seem only to demonstrate that the label should apply to YECs like yourself.
alwight
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That’s just you just saying that, but strangely enough that doesn’t actually make it true. :nono:
Most dogs have been radically altered by humans artificially selecting them over the years, it’s the same process that naturally selects creatures except that humans don’t do the selecting.
You probably mean that you don’t believe that speciation happens, but there is plenty of evidence that you are wrong about that.
What a shame, he’s brought real world knowledge of natural history to millions, but I’d call your attitude a denial of reality just to perhaps believe what you’d rather believe. The real world is often unpleasant, harsh and cruel.
I don’t know why you seem to think that life would ever have existed beyond a rather thin surface layer. Fossils of creatures from many millions of years ago, well before the stone age and humans began, have simply been exposed by sea erosion right here where I live.
Lucky you TL.
Well, worry not for me, I’ve simply managed to resist the temptation to permanently believe that any number of fantasy tales I’ve read and enjoyed in my time were actually true when cruel reality once more came a’calling.
lain:Lordkalvan
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I personally have found proof of nothing. There is plenty of evidence concerning the evolutionary history of human beings over several million years, however, not to mention of the evolution of other organisms. Would you like to learn about some of this?
Fortunately, what you do or don't believe has little impact on reality. You can deny evolution all you like, and it will still move along in its own inevitable way.
Lordkalvan
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Well, as you are failed to provide a single requested citation, so far your 'informedness' appears to be nothing so much as stuff you have just made up.
Lordkalvan
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You seem to know nothing about population science.
I have an idea that it won't...this is just me mind but I believe that science will conclude one day, maybe soon, that there is God. All the christians will cheer and say "there we told you so"
But I won't cheer.
For believing that there is God is as far away from true faith as the east is from the west. Islam believes in God but although they claim it is Jahweh God their belief in Him is as far different to true bible faith as night is different to day.
The question will always be do you have His life?
Looks to me like you swallered them whole. Hook line and sinker.That’s just you just saying that, but strangely enough that doesn’t actually make it true. :nono:
You make me laugh
Most dogs have been radically altered by humans artificially selecting them over the years, it’s the same process that naturally selects creatures except that humans don’t do the selecting.
They have not changed Al they have four legs and a tail like dogs have always had. And there have always been innumerable breeds but only one species. Within the species they can be crossbred and new breeds may result.
You probably mean that you don’t believe that speciation happens, but there is plenty of evidence that you are wrong about that.
There simply isn't, these things are theories that have been around so long that they have come to be accepted as scientific fact.
We have the donkey which can be crossed with a horse to produce a mule but the result is that the mule is sterile.
What a shame, he’s brought real world knowledge of natural history to millions, but I’d call your attitude a denial of reality just to perhaps believe what you’d rather believe. The real world is often unpleasant, harsh and cruel.
Each to their own. Totty has slept under bushes and bridges and worked in drug re-habilitation Al
I don’t know why you seem to think that life would ever have existed beyond a rather thin surface layer. Fossils of creatures from many millions of years ago, well before the stone age and humans began, have simply been exposed by sea erosion right here where I live.
But not so much as a human toe
Lucky you TL.
Well, worry not for me, I’ve simply managed to resist the temptation to permanently believe that any number of fantasy tales I’ve read and enjoyed in my time were actually true when cruel reality once more came a’calling.
God talks about reality....you know folk don't like to talk about death or sickness or disaster. But God speaks openly about it, tells why they are realities as you says. God talks about sin...folk don't like it but there you go...you have to live in the world as it is Al not as you think it oughta be.
I know it is tough to face the hard questions. The cross is brutal.
The "scientists said the world is flat" story seems to come from the same guy who wrote "The Headless Horseman of Sleepy Hollow."
Washington irving wrote a "history" which included that bit of foolishness, which he seems to have made up. No one told Columbus he would fall off the edge of the Earth. Eratosthenes had measured it's circumference a few hundred years before Christ, and Roman coins exist that show the world as a globe.
The myth of the Flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical.[1] The idea seems to have been widespread during the first half of the 20th century, so that the Members of the Historical Association in 1945 stated that:
"The idea that educated men at the time of Columbus believed that the earth was flat, and that this belief was one of the obstacles to be overcome by Columbus before he could get his project sanctioned, remains one of the hardiest errors in teaching."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth
Them scientists sure have hard pates
We're real one-way about things in science. No evidence, no acceptance.
Gotta go to bed folks...don't go evolving on me now, no reverting back to tadpoles....G'night
Bring your evidence...you'll make a fortune. Even Hitchens admits there is none.
alwight
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No it isn't. :nono:
Dogs are canine but they didn't occur naturally they were "evolved" by people, but since you do accept that evolution occurs it seems let's move on to horses.
Equidae (horse family) have been around much longer and unlike dogs have had the time and isolation to become split into different species, some still close enough genetically to produce (unviable) offspring hybrids e.g. mule.
Well, If you're so smart and I'm so dumb how is it that I can format posts and you can't? You make it this rather hard work to unravel your replies from my words.
I can also find evidence for what I say but you can't apparently. :nono:
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Maybe.
But calling yourself a fish is pretty stupid.
Meanwhile:
| Creation Astronomy News Volume IV, Number 2 (August 2013) Alien Solar Systems - What have they revealed? Is our Solar System special? Science media and textbooks have always said that the answer is no. We live in a ho-hum, average Solar System. There’s nothing special or unusual about it. But lately, even secular astronomers are being forced to admit that the truth is quite different. Apparently our Solar System is very unusual. You’ve probably heard that scientists have been diligently searching for exoplanets (planets outside of our Solar System), using a variety of new techniques. Just a couple of decades ago, no exoplanets were known. Now the count is approaching 900, with another couple thousand candidates under investigation. Recently a paper was published in Science that summarized the characteristics of these planets. It’s forcing people to face an issue that’s been quietly growing worse and worse for the astronomical community: the realization that exoplanets do not support the secular origins model for our Solar System. Not So Obvious Anymore Before we started finding exoplanets, secular astronomers were confident that there were countless Solar Systems ‘out there’ in the Milky Way that were just like our own. After all, astronomers ‘knew’ that our Solar System formed all by itself billions of years ago, from a big cloud of gas. And since it happened here, it must have happened countless other places too. This process was well understood. Supposedly, as the primordial gas cloud collapsed under gravity, it formed into a disk shape. That’s why the planets all orbit the Sun in the same direction today, with all their orbits lining up fairly closely into a disk that’s aligned with the Sun’s equator. Also, different elements condensed out of the cloud at different distances from the Sun. That’s why the inner planets of our Solar System are terrestrial (rocky), while the outer planets are made of gas and ice. The condensation process also supposedly explains why the outer planets are gigantic when compared to the (much smaller) inner planets. The gas-cloud-to-planets model has been taught for decades. In fact, it’s fair to say that most astronomers assumed our Solar System was inevitable, once you started from an appropriate gas cloud. And with 100 billion stars in our galaxy, surely there would be millions, maybe even billions, of other Solar Systems out there, with roughly the same characteristics as ours. This prediction was simple and straightforward. In fact, the whole idea seemed rather obvious. It was also completely wrong. Another Beautiful Theory Slain By Ugly Facts We’ve now discovered almost 900 exoplanets, having a wide variety of characteristics. These planets have not matched secular expectations. There are huge gas giants orbiting their parent stars at ridiculously close distances – far closer than Mercury orbits the Sun. In fact, some of these planets orbit their stars in just a couple of Earth days. Many of these are known as “Hot Jupiters”: gas giants roughly the size of Jupiter, orbiting their stars so closely that their atmospheres are estimated to be about 1,000 Celcius (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit). In secular models, only terrestrial planets are allowed to form this close to a star. Gas planets can only form out beyond the “frost line” – a distance far enough away from the star that water, ammonia, methane, and other ices can condense. (In our Solar System, this is beyond the orbit of Mars, in the middle of the asteroid belt). So Hot Jupiters aren’t supposed to be there, so close to their stars. But there they are anyway. Some other systems do have terrestrial inner planets, as expected. But these planets are ridiculously close to their stars too, which was unexpected. Some whip around their stars in just a couple of days. Many strange systems have been found. A fairly common configuration is for a pair of Neptune-sized planets to orbit their star very closely. Again, the secular model can’t explain this. Some systems are bizarre, like Kepler-20. This system has five planets of alternating size (large, small, large, small, large) – all of which orbit the star more closely than Mercury does our Sun. We also see lots of systems with planets intermediate in size between Earth and Neptune. Our Solar System – which was supposed to be the model for all other systems – has exactly zero planets like this, but they’re apparently common elsewhere. Then there are the planets that have been found with orbits that are highly inclined (tilted to the equators of their parent stars). Secular models predict that planets will have very low inclinations – but often, the opposite is being found. My personal favorites are the planets which have retrograde orbits. In other words, they go around their parent stars backwards, compared to what secular models predicted. These exoplanets have made a real mess out of secular origin models for our Solar System. As Caltech astronomer Mike Brown told NPR: “Before we ever discovered any [planets outside the solar system] we thought we understood the formation of planetary systems pretty deeply… It was a really beautiful theory. And, clearly, thoroughly wrong.” Astronomers are now scrambling to explain these new discoveries. There are all sorts of new theories about how hot Jupiters formed out where they were ‘supposed’ to, and then moved inward… …and how inclined planets formed where they were ‘supposed’ to, and then moved outward… …and how the “missing” planets in eccentric single-planet systems formed where they were ‘supposed’ to, but then got ejected… blah blah blah. As usual, these aren’t really scientific theories – they’re merely just-so stories. And the only thing they prove is that astronomers can have active imaginations. There’s also a key point that is being ignored: if all these planetary migration and ejection processes are so common, then why didn’t they happen here in our Solar System? Add it all up, and it seems our local cosmic neighborhood isn’t so ordinary and average as secular scientists have claimed. Apparently, our Solar System is pretty special after all. And that’s wonderfully consistent with the Bible… and inconsistent with atheistic origin theories. Psalm 19:1-4The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [There is] no speech nor language, [where] their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. Spike Psarris www.CreationAstronomy.com |
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