Well it's a good start that you let your ignorance inform your ignorance... I suppose.
Maybe you should re-read my OP.
it shows the opposite of what you say.
Maybe you missed the only opinion that counts of what a cult is-
It is as follows--A house divided will not stand=
34,000 trinity based religions.
They seem to have missed this simple bible milk of Jesus 1 true religion-1 Cor 1:10-Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division.
Jesus cleared that false mystery up--
it takes believing Jesus--
Why wont you? Are you his follower?
I proved my words with the bible.
God doesn't contradict himself,
proving symbolism in the NT about about a literal eternal suffering,
as well this teaching in the NT about it--A place where the worm dieth not.( Mark 9:44) No worm can survive in a hot firey place
proving it is symbolism.
I know your position. Like I said, you're not the first Jehovah's Witness to come onto this site spouting that He's proven most of Christianity wrong.
Notice how you avoided responding directly to any of what I had said?
Yes, that tends to happen on a debate/discussion forum.
Doesn't make you right.
You sure did. JWs are cultists, by definition.
What, you mean like what He says about people who make prophecies that don't come to pass? Like how the founders of your cult did?
Yup, typical taking things out of context.
To be honest, I have no idea where you're getting this number from (not that I care).
But I recommend you read @Clete's thread on what constitutes the gospel, in other words, what someone must believe to be saved.
The question, "What is the Gospel?" has come up a few times in various recent conversations I've had both here on TOL and elsewhere and I've been somewhat surprised by the degree of confusion that exists around what seems like ought to be a simple thing. Of course the confusion surrounding all...theologyonline.com
People believe what they want to believe.
What you seem to fail to recognize is that however many different beliefs there are in Christianity (which doesn't include Jehovah's Witnesses), ALL of them accept the Christ was God. ALL of them recognize Him as Lord and Savior. You want unity, start there, by accepting Him as your Lord and Savior, for He alone is God and Savior.
You repeating yourself doesn't make what you say true.
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’ ” - John 20:17 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John20:17&version=NKJV
Nope. This verse doesn't deny that God is triune. Next!
He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name. - Revelation 3:12 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation3:12&version=NKJV
Nope. Yet another verse that doesn't deny that God is triune.
No, I don't see what you're saying is in scripture.. And your paradigm of beliefs blinds you from seeing the truth of scripture.
All of the verses you have presented so far do not deny that God is triune.
If anything, they affirm that God is true!
I believe what the Bible says about Jesus, not just what Jesus Himself said, for they are in agreement.
Why do you assume I don't follow the real Jesus?
Why do you assume the Jesus you promote is the real one, and thus, the one to follow?
Anyone can prove their position using scripture. What matters is if scripture actually says what you are trying to prove. In your case, it doesn't, which means no matter how many times you copy and past prooftext after prooftext, you'll still be wrong.
If eternal suffering is only symbolism, then eternal life must also be symbolism.
There are plenty of creatures (particularly microscopic creatures) that are thermophiles, meaning, they thrive in very hot locations.
The Bible often uses symbolic language to describe real places and things.
You need to read what Jesus is quoting, to understand what he's saying:
“And they shall go forth and look Upon the corpses of the men Who have transgressed against Me. For their worm does not die, And their fire is not quenched. They shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.” - Isaiah 66:24 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah66:24&version=NKJV
There, all can see i showed you Gods view of a cult
and you throw it away because it proves your house divided will not stand.
better being wrong and gaining truth or living in lies by throwing Gods truths away?
We all know the JW,s are hated.
Jesus said that his followers would be hated because they hated him first.
Him and the truth he brought which exposes them. He exposed Gods own chosen scholars of the day while he was here.
They hated him for it.
They sent him to his death rather than seeing truth out of their haughty hearts.
Spoken like a true cultist! (REALLY! That isn't a joke!)There, all can see i showed you Gods view of a cult and you throw it away because it proves your house divided will not stand.
Are you asking or pondering this question? (The latter would be advisable.)Whats better being wrong and gaining truth or living in lies by throwing Gods truths away?
As well they should be!We all know the JW,s are hated.
I hate Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton. Does that make then JWs too?Jesus said that his followers would be hated because they hated him first.
They hated Jesus because He claimed to be God and a bunch of people were buying it!Him and the truth he brought which exposes them. He exposed Gods own chosen scholars of the day while he was here. They hated him for it. They sent him to his death rather than seeing truth out of their haughty hearts.
Well, unless God the Son becomes a human being and submits Himself to obedience to God the Father - even unto death.And all know 100% God does not have a God.
Maybe develop a better analogy.Not really part of the analogy. Instead of picking apart the analogy, you could learn from it.
Even if someone loves you, preventing them from leaving is still vary bad. Duh.Why? If both times the woman loved the man, then there would be nothing inherently wrong with him preventing her leaving.
I like this part.The other point of the analogy is that love cannot be forced. You cannot force someone to love you. In the same way, God cannot force someone to love Him. Love must be, repeat MUST BE, freely given.
I am unable to not understand this.If the woman is UNABLE to not love the man, then it's not love to begin with.
Too much of an extreme here? If I were trapped in a palatial mansion, it would not be that bad especially compared to being trapped in a dank bunker. In reality men and women in marriage make concessions balancing matters of the heart and economics. Not an ideal, but often true.The house is just an analogy for a location.
It can be either heaven or hell, but what it is is dependent on whether the person wants to be there or not.
If the woman did not like the man, but he kept her in his house, and prevented her from leaving the house, even if the house was supposed to signify "Heaven," for the woman, it would be utter hell.
Jesus said you cannot serve two masters. You either love the one and hate the other, or you despise the one and love the other. He also said you are either with Him, or against Him.
Before conception then!!!To their mother's womb? What good would that do?
Maybe develop a better analogy.
Even if someone loves you, preventing them from leaving is still vary bad. Duh.
I like this part.
I am unable to not understand this.
Too much of an extreme here? If I were trapped in a palatial mansion, it would not be that bad
especially compared to being trapped in a dank bunker.
In reality men and women in marriage make concessions balancing matters of the heart and economics. Not an ideal, but often true.
Old fashioned, outdated thinking.
Before conception then!!!
God does not have a God.
No, you haven't.
I can't throw away what wasn't given to me.
The only one throwing anything away is you.
I don't hate JW's, and I daresay no one else here does either. I love them enough to tell them that their beliefs are wrong, and they need to repent.
Don't get full of yourself. You aren't a follower of Christ.
You have no idea what he taught, do you?
It's a lot different than what you proclaim.
They (Israel) hated Him because He was God, because they had turned away from God.
They crucified Him because, like most people who hate God, they would rather kill God than repent.
Spoken like a true cultist! (REALLY! That isn't a joke!)
Are you asking or pondering this question? (The latter would be advisable.)
As well they should be!
JWs are a cult as big as Dallas! Don't believe me? Try to leave! Just try pretending leave and see what happens!
I hate Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton. Does that make then JWs too?
Psalms 139:21 Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You?And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?22 I hate them with perfect hatred;I count them my enemies.
They hated Jesus because He claimed to be God and a bunch of people were buying it!
It was His raising Lazarus from the dead that was the final straw. After that, it was no longer deniable that He was who He claimed to be and so they decided that He has to die.
John 11:43 Now when He had said these things, He cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth!” 44 And he who had died came out bound hand and foot with graveclothes, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Loose him, and let him go.”45 Then many of the Jews who had come to Mary, and had seen the things Jesus did, believed in Him. 46 But some of them went away to the Pharisees and told them the things Jesus did. 47 Then the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered a council and said, “What shall we do? For this Man works many signs. 48 If we let Him alone like this, everyone will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and nation.”49 And one of them, Caiaphas, being high priest that year, said to them, “You know nothing at all, 50 nor do you consider that it is expedient for us that one man should die for the people, and not that the whole nation should perish.” 51 Now this he did not say on his own authority; but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation, 52 and not for that nation only, but also that He would gather together in one the children of God who were scattered abroad.53 Then, from that day on, they plotted to put Him to death.Clete
Well, unless God the Son becomes a human being and submits Himself to obedience to God the Father - even unto death.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.John 1:14 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him:“You are My Son,Today I have begotten You.”6 As He also says in another place:“You are a priest foreverAccording to the order of Melchizedek”;7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, 8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.
OK, back to the OP.
What do you say happens to the wicked upon their deaths?
That is, on the day of judgement?
Here, once again, you're using your extra-Biblical phrase, "have a God," without telling us what (if anything) you mean by it.
God is God, and you say "God does not have a God," so, since God is love, do you also want to say "God does not have love"? Also, since God is a Spirit, do you want to say "God does not have a Spirit"?
Is God Godless?
God does not have a God.
Back in the 30,s and 40,s clergys told their flocks to tar and feather JW,s--they did just that because they lack Jesus' love he taught.
Jesus has a God-God does not have a God= simple reality