Election Fraud? What Election Fraud?

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Los Angeles County reported Monday that over 27% of the signatures submitted on petitions to recall District Attorney George Gascón were invalid — after reporting that less than 1% of mail-in ballots were invalid in the 2020 election.

The county reported that it rejected 195,783 of the 715,833 signatures submitted, roughly 27.3%. The reasons given included that some voters were found to be unregistered; incorrect addresses were given; or signatures did not match those on file.
However, in January 2021, the county reported that less than 1% of the 3,422,585 vote-by-mail ballots submitted were rejected. The test for the validity of ballots is similar to that of petitions, involving checking signatures and addresses.
Given that the State of California mailed ballots to every voter on the rolls, rather than just to those who had requested them as in years past, there was a high likelihood of error; some voters reported receiving multiple ballots, often for prior residents. (These problems persisted in the 2021 recall election for Gov. Gavin Newsom, as personally witness by this author.)

Yet the county reported that 99.38% of vote-by-mail ballots were accepted in 2020. The number of vote-by-mail ballots that were rejected due to inaccurate signatures (12,135) in the election was close to the number rejected for that reason in the recall petitions (9,490), though the number of signatures to be examined in the election was roughly five times greater.

In the primary phase of the 2020 election, when many states were using vote-by-mail for the first time, the rejection rate was roughly one in four, according to the Washington Post. That rate of rejection was less than one percent nationwide in the general election — and lower than the rejection rate in 2016 in many states, when there were far fewer people voting by mail.

One explanation, according to FiveThirtyEight.com, was that “states … proactively changed their election policies to prevent ballots from getting tossed due to lateness,” and that voters were given a chance to “cure” invalid ballots. A more cynical theory was that officials may have lowered standards for rejection given the emphasis on vote-by-mail during the pandemic.

Recall proponents complained that they were not allowed to watch the signature verification process, after county officials said they were not required to allow observers since the petition drive did not qualify as an “election” under state law.


 

ok doser

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Meanwhile on the other side of the continent another George Soros installed district attorney is busy at work destroying America

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I'm sorry but this guy deserves to be fed feet first into the wood chipper. Followed by the district attorney and the judge who let him loose.
 

Idolater

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We should amend the Constitution to make in-person voting the default position and absentee ballots the exception, just like it was for like centuries here.

It's one of the longest political traditions in this country. It shouldn't have been changed so easily. And it should be changed back.
 

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In the video below, Becky Hobbs admitted to a Democrat strategy of funding Republican candidates who they thought would be easier to beat in a general election and admitted to registering as a Republican with her husband “to vote against Mark Kelly.” They believed it would help Kelly in his November general election.
 

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Los Angeles County reported Monday that over 27% of the signatures submitted on petitions to recall District Attorney George Gascón were invalid — after reporting that less than 1% of mail-in ballots were invalid in the 2020 election.

The county reported that it rejected 195,783 of the 715,833 signatures submitted, roughly 27.3%. The reasons given included that some voters were found to be unregistered; incorrect addresses were given; or signatures did not match those on file.
However, in January 2021, the county reported that less than 1% of the 3,422,585 vote-by-mail ballots submitted were rejected. The test for the validity of ballots is similar to that of petitions, involving checking signatures and addresses.
Given that the State of California mailed ballots to every voter on the rolls, rather than just to those who had requested them as in years past, there was a high likelihood of error; some voters reported receiving multiple ballots, often for prior residents. (These problems persisted in the 2021 recall election for Gov. Gavin Newsom, as personally witness by this author.)

Yet the county reported that 99.38% of vote-by-mail ballots were accepted in 2020. The number of vote-by-mail ballots that were rejected due to inaccurate signatures (12,135) in the election was close to the number rejected for that reason in the recall petitions (9,490), though the number of signatures to be examined in the election was roughly five times greater.

In the primary phase of the 2020 election, when many states were using vote-by-mail for the first time, the rejection rate was roughly one in four, according to the Washington Post. That rate of rejection was less than one percent nationwide in the general election — and lower than the rejection rate in 2016 in many states, when there were far fewer people voting by mail.

One explanation, according to FiveThirtyEight.com, was that “states … proactively changed their election policies to prevent ballots from getting tossed due to lateness,” and that voters were given a chance to “cure” invalid ballots. A more cynical theory was that officials may have lowered standards for rejection given the emphasis on vote-by-mail during the pandemic.

Recall proponents complained that they were not allowed to watch the signature verification process, after county officials said they were not required to allow observers since the petition drive did not qualify as an “election” under state law.


election fraud?
heres what I think. to be honest and not being on anyones side, I look at it like a shoplifter stealing candy. He did a crime. there laws against that. But I don't think we should shut down the whole candy store cause its possible for other thieves to steal candy.
I think trump used, "lets do an investigation" yeah we should do that but I think trump really wants to do away with democracy all together.
We learned our lessons using atomic bombs in japan but we learn nothing in the election process. somebody has to run the candy store and stay on top of it, preventing more shoplifters.
We need to stay on top of democracy. We need to play poker fairly
 

Idolater

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election fraud?
heres what I think. to be honest and not being on anyones side, I look at it like a shoplifter stealing candy. He did a crime. there laws against that. But I don't think we should shut down the whole candy store cause its possible for other thieves to steal candy.
I think trump used, "lets do an investigation" yeah we should do that but I think trump really wants to do away with democracy all together.
Former President Trump loves America. He doesn't want to "do away with" America, he wants to promote America. Make America Great Again.
We learned our lessons using atomic bombs in japan but we learn nothing in the election process. somebody has to run the candy store and stay on top of it, preventing more shoplifters.
We need to stay on top of democracy. We need to play poker fairly
All's fair in poker.

 

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Former President Trump loves America. He doesn't want to "do away with" America, he wants to promote America. Make America Great Again.

All's fair in poker.

I just cranked my pc up. my mouse hovered over a news icon. a pop up showed Cruz saying of coarse Trump isn't going to tesafied. pop up disappeared cause I opened my browser. While watching TOL load, I saw you. Then I remembered Nancy Pelosi saying yesterday, "Trump isn't man enough".
I think she said it WELL. I wonder who is man enough here?
There are rules in poker. In football, the winning team wins. Same in democracy . Most voters win. flip a coin, heads or tails.
Now who is man enough to admit that?
Am I the only real man here?
 

Idolater

"Lahey, I live in a tent!"
I just cranked my pc up. my mouse hovered over a news icon. a pop up showed Cruz saying of coarse Trump isn't going to tesafied. pop up disappeared cause I opened my browser. While watching TOL load, I saw you. Then I remembered Nancy Pelosi saying yesterday, "Trump isn't man enough".
I think she said it WELL. I wonder who is man enough here?
There are rules in poker. In football, the winning team wins. Same in democracy . Most voters win. flip a coin, heads or tails.
Now who is man enough to admit that?
Am I the only real man here?
lol what are you talking about? Are you drunk?
 

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