Your giving a great example of the Carnage the mistranslation of pisteuo into the English has caused .
None of what you posted is the true life of Faithing in Christ , aka Christianity .
Do you have to believe in the Trinity to be a Christian?
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Your giving a great example of the Carnage the mistranslation of pisteuo into the English has caused .
None of what you posted is the true life of Faithing in Christ , aka Christianity .
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It is not carnage to believe and obey Jesus.
How can a person say something so evil?
Go ahead and try to prove it.
You are not worth debating in the slightest.
You had the chance to speak biblical about LIVING FAITH, FAITH THAT IS ALIVE.
You rather choose though to go against the scriptures and against God's Truth.
It isn't English to say 'faithing'.
God brings His Truth to people in their language.
Who wants to hear you make up a word and call it English?
Who wants to hear you say the whole New Testament is a lie?
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2 Timothy 2:14 Bring all this to men's remembrances, solemnly charging them in the presence of God not to waste time in wrangling about mere words, a course which is altogether unprofitable and tends only to the ruin of the hearers.
genuineoriginal
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It was just such a debate that created the doctrine of the Trinity centuries after the crucifixion (to the ruin of the hearers).
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Homoousios: A 100 year debate
In the early fourth century a debate erupted over the concept of ‘homoousios’, a Greek word used to describe Jesus being of the same essence, being or substance as the Father.
A hundred years earlier Origen, a theologian based in Alexandria with an interest in exploring faith in terms that made sense to those schooled in Greek philosophy, had talked about God being one ‘ousios’ or essence, with three distinct expressions or forms of being – hypostasis.
He described Jesus in terms of the Logos, a phrase well known to followers of Greek philosopher Philo.
Over time discussion began over whether to talk about Jesus and God having homo ousios (one substance) or homoi ousios (similar substance).
In 264-268 the Synods of Antioch condemned the term ‘homoousios’ (same substance) because of its connections with Greek philosophy. They were also concerned that the concept, taken to extremes, could lead to a perception of Jesus that overlooked his humanity.
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Homoousios: A 100 year debate
In the early fourth century a debate erupted over the concept of ‘homoousios’, a Greek word used to describe Jesus being of the same essence, being or substance as the Father.
A hundred years earlier Origen, a theologian based in Alexandria with an interest in exploring faith in terms that made sense to those schooled in Greek philosophy, had talked about God being one ‘ousios’ or essence, with three distinct expressions or forms of being – hypostasis.
He described Jesus in terms of the Logos, a phrase well known to followers of Greek philosopher Philo.
Over time discussion began over whether to talk about Jesus and God having homo ousios (one substance) or homoi ousios (similar substance).
In 264-268 the Synods of Antioch condemned the term ‘homoousios’ (same substance) because of its connections with Greek philosophy. They were also concerned that the concept, taken to extremes, could lead to a perception of Jesus that overlooked his humanity.
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If you do not understand the nature of God, how can you be a Christian?
genuineoriginal
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The Bible never tells us that we can understand the nature of God.
You
Sorry , the Greek doesn't even have a word for believing . Only faithing towards God pisteuo , or faithing away from God , apisteuo . No middle ground or simple mental assent . And your obedience only comes by God's nature flowing through the temple of the Holy Spirit "AFTER " he has had the Spirit of Christ sealed in them . Not us doing it , but God doing it through us .
You have faith and faithing confused with obedience. Probably need to spend more time listening than speaking if I were you. This will be the only warning you will receive from me.
Sorry , the Greek doesn't even have a word for believing . Only faithing towards God pisteuo , or faithing away from God , apisteuo . No middle ground or simple mental assent . And your obedience only comes by God's nature flowing through the temple of the Holy Spirit "AFTER " he has had the Spirit of Christ sealed in them . Not us doing it , but God doing it through us .
You have faith and faithing confused with obedience. Probably need to spend more time listening than speaking if I were you. This will be the only warning you will receive from me.
keypurr
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I'm glad you do not have yo understand the nature of who God is.
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I only go by what the Bible says.
All humans have a spirit, and Jesus' spirit as a man on earth is the Father's Spirit come as a man.
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The Bible does tell us.
Jesus taught the Trinity Matthew 28:19
The Apostles taught the Trinity, John for one, John 1:1
The doctrine of the Trinity was first defended by Tertullian in the early third century.
Wikipedia: The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by the early church father Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended his theology against "Praxeas", though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine.
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I have a powerful testimony and your warning is beyond pathetic.
Stop trying to rewrite the Bible and base it on a word that doesn't exist.
Jesus plainly tells us how to get saved, how to receive the Holy Spirit.
You are preaching against the Word of God.
I'm sure that you would claim to have been given the Grace deposit or the Spirit of Christ . And can probably claim the things God's Word tells us happens when one is given this .
But , God's Word also tells us if we have the Spirit of Christ , you also have the mind of Christ . But it doesn't say one word about what its like or what happens when one has been given the mind of Christ .
So can you fill in that blank for me ? What happened when you received the mind of Christ ? And what is it like to live with it on a daily basis ?
No cheating !
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I don't cheat and I don't think you know what the mind of Christ means. So how can you make a right judgment?
The mind of Christ is an obedient mind to the Father.
Nope !
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You are wrong and failed your own test.
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If you had the mind of Christ, as you claim, then you would know that what I say is true.
You fail at your own test.
According to your own test, you do not have the mind of Christ.
You fail at your own test.
According to your own test, you do not have the mind of Christ.
There is no way of cheating . You have to have the experience to know .