ECT Do Madists break bread?

Ktoyou

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Yes, and even many MAD wackos miss this:

Acts 26:16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;

1. These things, have appeared
2. Those things, will appear

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The New Covenant Temple began on the day of Pentecost and believers were added to it in the same way to this very day.

Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Act 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.


Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

LA

LA, she's a women who does not believe in the divinity of Christ. She always falls back on the OT as if all pertinent resides there:wave2:

I deny the RCC version of the divinity of Christ, not His divinity inherited from His Father.

I fail to see how my post is speaking of the old testament?

It is so usual for madists to condemn the righteous in order to avoid the truth of the message.

It is amazing to behold their blindness to who they are aligning themselves to.

LA
 

Danoh

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LA, she's a women who does not believe in the divinity of Christ. She always falls back on the OT as if all pertinent resides there:wave2:

Okay...

At the same time, my A9D based point in post #36 still has merit, Rom. 15:27.
 

DAN P

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I deny the RCC version of the divinity of Christ, not His divinity inherited from His Father.

I fail to see how my post is speaking of the old testament?

It is so usual for madists to condemn the righteous in order to avoid the truth of the message.

It is amazing to behold their blindness to who they are aligning themselves to.

LA


Hi and Matthew -Acts is OT and Peter is speaking until Acts 15 !!

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Hi and Matthew -Acts is OT and Peter is speaking until Acts 15 !!

dan p

No.

Christ established His NT temple with the 120 on the day of Pentecost under the new covenant inaugerated by His blood.

The type--

2Ch 5:12 Also the Levites which were the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, being arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets:)
2Ch 5:13 It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the LORD;
2Ch 5:14 So that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of God.

That which the type spoke of ---

Act 1:13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
Act 1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
Act 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)

Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Act 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

LA
 

Ktoyou

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I deny the RCC version of the divinity of Christ, not His divinity inherited from His Father.

I fail to see how my post is speaking of the old testament?

It is so usual for madists to condemn the righteous in order to avoid the truth of the message.

It is amazing to behold their blindness to who they are aligning themselves to.

LA

Do you believe Jesus always co-existed with the Father, or the Father precedes Jesus?
 

Lazy afternoon

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I deny the RCC version of the divinity of Christ, not His divinity inherited from His Father.

I fail to see how my post is speaking of the old testament?

It is so usual for madists to condemn the righteous in order to avoid the truth of the message.

It is amazing to behold their blindness to who they are aligning themselves to.

LA

Do you believe Jesus always co-existed with the Father, or the Father precedes Jesus?

It is the way in which Jesus was with the Father before His birth which is misrepresented so often.

To say that the Word was the living Jesus before His birth negates the need for His birth.

Jesus is all man, made in the image of God by His Father.

None can be saved in the first resurrection unless they acknowledge that, for He is not a spirit.



Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

LA
 

Danoh

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No.

Christ established His NT temple with the 120 on the day of Pentecost under the new covenant inaugerated by His blood.

The type--

2Ch 5:12 Also the Levites which were the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, being arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets:)
2Ch 5:13 It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the LORD;
2Ch 5:14 So that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of God.

That which the type spoke of ---

Act 1:13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
Act 1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
Act 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)

Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Act 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

LA

Acts 2:

46. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47. Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Church meaning congregation or assembly. The Temple being their Assembly Hall, so to speak.

Exodus 12:

6. And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

Acts 7:

37. This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
38. This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Hebrews 12:

23. To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
 

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No it does not. God alone could pardon man.

Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
 

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Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Just EXACTLY, how can someone honor A MAN just as they honor GOD?

You could NOT be more wrong about the nature of the LORD FROM HEAVEN.
1 Cor 15:47
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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It is the way in which Jesus was with the Father before His birth which is misrepresented so often.

To say that the Word was the living Jesus before His birth negates the need for His birth.

Jesus is all man, made in the image of God by His Father.

None can be saved in the first resurrection unless they acknowledge that, for He is not a spirit.



Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

LA

I admire the way you keep posting, even though nothing you say
is ever correct. That takes guts.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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GM, admittedly, that the Apostle Paul goes into what he does in 2 Corinthians 3, has often thrown off even many MADists.

This is because simply asserting (or merely hearing) "that's not for us" (if the issue was even properly addressed during its exposition, to begin with, or not heard, when it was) does not really solve for that.

And that is within MAD. Can't well expect someone like Lazy Afternoon and many like him, who have yet to demonstrate a clear understanding of MAD to begin with, to understand "that's not for us," let alone, its' dynamic (how a thing works, applies, or does not, how it does, or does not apply, and this, in light of how other, much more overall things in general, work together).

Because, as with the dynamic of the Body, this is a lots of parts "fitly joined and compacted together by that which every joint supplieth" kind of a thing.

One part out of whack; not properly in place; one fry short of a Happy Meal, if you will, can result in a lot of the rest being thrown off; in its being understood in a way that makes sense to the individual, only out of their unawareness of that one piece out of whack, if not missing, altogether, to begin with.

Huh?
 

Lazy afternoon

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Just EXACTLY, how can someone honor A MAN just as they honor GOD?

You could NOT be more wrong about the nature of the LORD FROM HEAVEN.
1 Cor 15:47
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

So you do not believe Jesus is a man.

1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

LA
 

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So you do not believe Jesus is a man.

1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

LA
Yes, Jesus TOOK ON human flesh and BECAME a man.

You focus on "the second man" and ignore "IS THE LORD FROM HEAVEN"?

You are an unbeliever.
 

Ktoyou

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So you do not believe Jesus is a man.


LA

How did Jesus Christ, God the Son, take on human flesh while still remaining fully God? The phrase "hypostatic union" is used to describe this miracle. As we see in John, chapter 1, Jesus Christ has always been God and at the same time He has always been with God. John 8:58 and 10:30 re-affirm this truth. However, when Jesus Christ came to earth, He became a human being (John 1:14). It is best to understand the incarnation as something that was an expression of who Jesus is and has always been, rather than something that changed Him. He has always been one Person, fully God and fully man. This is what is called the hypostatic union.

Jesus has two natures—one human and one divine—that cannot be separated. For all of time, He will be the "God-man" both fully human and fully God, two distinct natures contained in one Being. The divine nature of Jesus is not diminished by His human nature, and His human nature does not lose identity because of His divine nature. He has one personality, but that personality contains two natures. Sometimes, Jesus operated within the limits of His human nature (John 4:6, 19:28), but other times He expressed the power of His divine nature (John 11:43; Matthew 14:18-21).

The hypostatic union is the attempt of finite human minds to grasp the infinite nature of Jesus Christ. Ultimately, though, we cannot fully understand how He can be both fully divine and fully human at the same time. It is beyond our comprehension. For example, Jesus is and has always been God's Son. He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35). However, it is also true that Jesus had existence before that conception, as we can see in John 8:58 and 10:30. At the incarnation, Jesus became human, but did not cease to be God (John 1:1, 14).

There are important reasons for the hypostatic union. The Bible tells us that Jesus became human so that He would identify with human struggles and pains (Hebrews 2:17) and so that He would become a spiritual high priest for us (Hebrews 4:14-15, 9:11-12) a mediator between God and man, securing our redemption. He died on the cross to atone for the sins of those who believe (John 3:16; Philippians 2:5-11) and needed a human body so that He could die. The hypostatic union teaches that Jesus is both human and divine—perfectly. Neither nature is diminished by the other, and He is a whole and eternal Person.
 
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