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CabinetMaker

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Cabinethead seems to think that an absence of evidence he demands proves something. :chuckle:
Prove something, no. But it does leave you with a rather large problem. You cannot show any animal that even remotely resembles what Job described. That means that it is not evidence for your position either. It is inconclusive. Said a bit differently, lack of evidence neither proves nor disproves a hypothesis.
 

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Prove something, no. But it does leave you with a rather large problem. You cannot show any animal that even remotely resembles what Job described. That means that it is not evidence for your position either. It is inconclusive. Said a bit differently, lack of evidence neither proves nor disproves a hypothesis.
Luckily, we did not present a hypothesis.

FACT: The Bible describes leviathan and behemoth.
EVIDENCE: This fact is evidence that people and dinos coexisted.

This has only been told to you about 10 times. Soon it will penetrate that concrete-filled cranium of yours.
 

Stuu

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FACT: The Bible describes leviathan and behemoth.
EVIDENCE: This fact is evidence that people and dinos coexisted.
Nice example of the logical fallacy of equivocation. It is a fact that the bible has such descriptions. It is not necessarily a fact that these things existed.

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CabinetMaker

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Luckily, we did not present a hypothesis.

FACT: The Bible describes leviathan and behemoth.
EVIDENCE: This fact is evidence that people and dinos coexisted.

This has only been told to you about 10 times. Soon it will penetrate that concrete-filled cranium of yours.
Its an unsupported assertion - a hypothesis.

The bible says lions and people coexisted. We have independent confirmation of this.

The bible says sheep and people coexisted. We have independent confirmation of this.

The bible says wolves and people coexisted. We have independent confirmation of this.

The bible says horses and people coexisted. We have independent confirmation of this.

In truth, the bible does not say that people and dinosaurs coexisted. Examples of the other animals appear all through scripture. Behemoth and leviathan appear in only one book and with out the independent confirmation that God provided for other animals. You have no supporting facts from your same source nor do you have any supporting facts from any other source.

Shirley, a learned scientist such as yourself, can see that one statement with no supporting evidence beyond itself does not constitute solid scientific research.
 

Stripe

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Nice example of the logical fallacy of false equivalence. You don't see that very often.

Stuart

Nope.

Fact: The Bible describes behemoth and leviathon. Fact. No false equivalence.

Evidence. This fact is evidence that dinos and people coexisted. Evidence. No false equivalence.

If you want to claim false equivalence, you would have to show how the descriptions cannot be of dinosaurs.

Many have tried -- some think leviathon is a croc :darwinsm: -- are you going to have a crack?
 

CabinetMaker

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Nope.

Fact: The Bible describes behemoth and leviathon. Fact. No false equivalence.

Evidence. This fact is evidence that dinos and people coexisted. Evidence. No false equivalence.

If you want to claim false equivalence, you would have to show how the descriptions cannot be of dinosaurs.

Many have tried -- some think leviathon is a croc :darwinsm: -- are you going to have a crack?
As soon as you can produce a fire breathing dinosaur then you will have an actual fact. You made a positive assertion you are required to prove your assertion.
 

6days

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None of those possibilities breathed fire or had interlocking armor on their back that were so tight even air could not get through thus, they fail to meet the description that Job provided.* We have a significant amount dinosaur fossils yet nothing in those fossils even remotely resembles what Job described.* A few folks have thrown up a few dinosaurs they feel might be a behemoth but nobody can produce anything that even remotely resembles what is, for lack of a better term, a fire breathing dragon.* That is a problem for you.
Nope... it is not a problem for me.*

Is Leviathon a problem for you?
 

Stuu

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Fact: The Bible describes behemoth and leviathon. Fact. No false equivalence.
There can't be false equivalence yet, can there.

Evidence. This fact is evidence that dinos and people coexisted. Evidence. No false equivalence.

If you want to claim false equivalence, you would have to show how the descriptions cannot be of dinosaurs.
No, it's false equivalence regardless.

Many have tried -- some think leviathon is a croc :darwinsm: -- are you going to have a crack?
So we have already finished with the biblical unicorn, then?

Stuart
 

MichaelCadry

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Dear 6days,

I take Job as literally true indeed. So we agree!! There are NO parables in the story about him and his friends, and his family, and that he was well off. He went through Hell losing his family and all that he owned, and boils on him from the sackcloth of ashes putting severe acne on him. And his friends couldn't help him, but Job was a wonderful person, very loyal to God. I wish I were as good as Job. Or Jonah, even. It's been a life!!

Praise The Lord!!

Michael
 

Nick M

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We have a significant amount dinosaur fossils yet nothing in those fossils even remotely resembles what Job described.

We also don't have a bunch of human fossils even though there is supposed to be billions of years of evolution. The only ones are rapid burial.
 

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We also don't have a bunch of human fossils even though there is supposed to be billions of years of evolution. The only ones are rapid burial.

Well, humans have only existed for a couple million years. As for your comment on only rapid burial remains being found, how about a citation?
 

CabinetMaker

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We also don't have a bunch of human fossils even though there is supposed to be billions of years of evolution. The only ones are rapid burial.

But we do have some. They is the point. There are some some fossils that could be proto b humans, enough to make scientists keep looking. There is nothing that even remotely resembles Job's leviathan in any of the dinosaur fossils found to date. Why is that?
 

6days

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CabinetMaker said:
There are some some fossils that could be proto b humans, enough to make scientists keep looking.
Correction. .. it is only evolutionists who keep looking. It is evutionists who find fossilized apes, lemurs, monkeys etc and describe them as hominids.

God's Word tells us He created humans distinct from animals. We are all descendants of Adam and Eve. We are all 'one blood'
 

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Correction. .. it is only evolutionists who keep looking. It is evutionists who find fossilized apes, lemurs, monkeys etc and describe them as hominids.

So all scientists who disagree with your view on history are liars and fabricators? Convenient and sorry excuse that is.

And by the way, it's only YEC "scientists" who find "evidence" of a young earth or of a global flood and ark.
 
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