Christians worship Christ; JW's do not!

[popsthebuilder]

"The Father" is not the same as "Our Father."

If it is, please show how.

Uhm



Father is always a reference to GOD almighty.

We are even told that people were admonished to not call their flesh father "Father".

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[popsthebuilder]

3 hypostases; 1 ousia

Explain that to a child

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[popsthebuilder]

Scores of times in scripture, the dialogue of God alternates from First-Person to Third-Person...thus, the only logical conclusion that one can arrive at is that Yahweh is more than one Person.

News flash; GOD is not a person or three people. Check scripture and stop blaspheming our Lord.

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[JudgeRightly]

List the recognizable differences between GOD, GOD, AND GOD as you understand them please.

There is only one God, Pops.

God is WHAT He is, not WHO He is.

 

[JudgeRightly]

"I'm saying that "God the Father" is ONE PERSON, one WHO, of the Trinity.

I'm saying that "God the Son" is ONE PERSON, one WHO, of the Trinity.

I'm saying that "God the Holy Spirit" is ONE PERSON, one WHO, of the Trinity."

So separately, none of the three are GOD almighty or the fullness of GOD?





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I'm not going to even try to sort out who said what in this post, because it's all mixed together.

Fix it please.

 

[popsthebuilder]

It says God. Not God the Father.

The one God is speaking. All three persons.

There is only one GOD.

In knowing this simple biblical fact; there is no need to identify which of the three separately people it is, but we know it refers to GOD almighty the FATHER, as there is but one GOD.

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[popsthebuilder]

No, it would not.



That's because your definition of "Person" is too narrow.

It's based on the definition.

What is your based on seeing as how the trinity is not expressed in the Bible; especially not as three separate people or a person at all.

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[popsthebuilder]

There is only one God, Pops.

God is WHAT He is, not WHO He is.

So answer the question please friend.

List the difference between the three

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[popsthebuilder]

I'm not going to even try to sort out who said what in this post, because it's all mixed together.

Fix it please.

Your words are in quotation marks friend.

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[JudgeRightly]

That didn't answer much.

ONLY because you're unwilling to learn.

So is each separately 100% GOD?

NO. Stop making God into a math equation!

Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All three are co-equally God.

If so then together they would combine to be 300% GOD.

NO. Stop making God into a math equation!

God is WHAT He is. Father, Son, Spirit are WHO He is.

What about Jesus? Was He not 100% GOD as He walked the Earth? He was one with the Father and the Spirit dwelled in Him, but only one Body.

Jesus is 100% God and 100% man.

Go look up the phrase "Hypostatic Union."

The traditional trinity doctrine cannot stand up to any level of scrutiny.

Of course it can.

Uhm

Father is always a reference to GOD almighty.

There is a grammatical difference between "our" Father and "the" Father.

The former is referring to the Trinity as a whole. The latter is referring SPECIFICALLY to the first Person of the Trinity, God the Father.

We are even told that people were admonished to not call their flesh father "Father".

Duh, because "father" and "Father" are not the same thing.

News flash; GOD is not a person or three people. Check scripture and stop blaspheming our Lord.

NEWS FLASH! You're incorrect.

Check scripture and stop blaspheming God Almighty.

 

[lifeisgood]

Stop making up stuff about me. Are you that dishonest?

There goes that spirit of persecution again.

 

[lifeisgood]

Why is it lame?

GOD isn't limited to a book at all; surely GOD can convey HIS Message through whatever means HE chooses. Pretty sure HE chose HIS Christ as that means. Surely you do not limit the power or Spirit of GOD to a particular translation of the written word.

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Another lame answer respecting the subject matter.

 

[JudgeRightly]

There is only one GOD.

DUH!

In knowing this simple biblical fact; there is no need to identify which of the three separately people it is,

Of course there is, because there IS a distinction in scripture.

but we know

No, you blindly assert.

it refers to GOD almighty the FATHER, as there is but one GOD.

NO, IT DOESN'T.

It's based on the definition.

Your definition is not the standard.

Person: A person is a being that has certain capacities or attributes such as reason, morality, consciousness or self-consciousness, and being a part of a culturally established form of social relations such as kinship, ownership of property, or legal responsibility.
(Wikipedia)

We've been through this before.

What is your based on seeing as how the trinity is not expressed in the Bible;

That made no sense whatsoever.

especially not as three separate people or a person at all.

The Father (1 John 3:1)
The Son (1 John 1:3)
The Holy Spirit (John 14:6; 14:26; 15:26; 16:13-14; Romans 15:30; Ephesians 4:30)

You were saying?

So answer the question please friend.

List the difference between the three

You'd think it would be obvious.

One is called the Father, one is called the Son, one is called the Holy Spirit.

The Father is not called the Son or the Holy Spirit.
The Son is not called the Father or the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is not called the Father or the Son.

Your words are in quotation marks friend.

You've been told this before. Either use the QUOTE feature of the site appropriately, or don't expect people to reply to you.

Sort out the post appropriately, or I WILL NOT reply to it.

 

[popsthebuilder]

ONLY because you're unwilling to learn.



NO. Stop making God into a math equation!

Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All three are co-equally God.



NO. Stop making God into a math equation!

God is WHAT He is. Father, Son, Spirit are WHO He is.



Jesus is 100% God and 100% man.

Go look up the phrase "Hypostatic Union."



Of course it can.



There is a grammatical difference between "our" Father and "the" Father.

The former is referring to the Trinity as a whole. The latter is referring SPECIFICALLY to the first Person of the Trinity, God the Father.



Duh, because "father" and "Father" are not the same thing.



NEWS FLASH! You're incorrect.

Check scripture and stop blaspheming God Almighty.

If you refuse to see the illogic of your own defenses then there is much a reason to continue.

All the best friend.

peace

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[JudgeRightly]

If you refuse to see the illogic of your own defenses then there is much a reason to continue.

All the best friend.

peace

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If you refuse to see the logic in what I'm saying, it's no wonder you're backing out so quickly.

 

[popsthebuilder]

DUH!



Of course there is, because there IS a distinction in scripture.



No, you blindly assert.



NO, IT DOESN'T.



Your definition is not the standard.

Person: A person is a being that has certain capacities or attributes such as reason, morality, consciousness or self-consciousness, and being a part of a culturally established form of social relations such as kinship, ownership of property, or legal responsibility.
(Wikipedia)

We've been through this before.



That made no sense whatsoever.



The Father (1 John 3:1)
The Son (1 John 1:3)
The Holy Spirit (John 14:6; 14:26; 15:26; 16:13-14; Romans 15:30; Ephesians 4:30)

You were saying?



You'd think it would be obvious.

One is called the Father, one is called the Son, one is called the Holy Spirit.

The Father is not called the Son or Holy Spirit.
The Son is not called the Father or Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is not called the Father or Son.



You've been told this before. Either use the QUOTE feature of the site appropriately, or don't expect people to reply to you.

Sort out the post appropriately, or I WILL NOT reply to it.

You don't have to reply friend. I don't care if you do or not.

The the distinction is in name only?!

All the same Spirit which is GOD almighty regardless of how many manifestations HE forms or vessels HE fills.

Still one GOD, still One Spirit.....only.

peace



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[popsthebuilder]

If you refuse to see the logic in what I'm saying, it's no wonder you're backing out so quickly.

You can't even describe the distinction between the three past names.

I've got work to do. @ God's Truth will likely pick up where I left off. If not I may resume this evening.

I hope all have a good day and reflect on the will of the Spirit in their own life this day.

peace

And to be clear; I do not want to participate in unending strife for the sake of none; which is why I said what I did.

If neither of us is hearing the other then what is the point? How will we edify one another?

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[lifeisgood]

...the distinction between the three past names....

What???????

 

[God's Truth]

No, it would not.



That's because your definition of "Person" is too narrow.

Every person has his or her own spirit.
You make the Father not a Spirit, but still, a person. You do the same with the Son. You make the Son without a Spirit, but still separate and different person from the Father. So if Jesus isn't the same as the Father, then where is the spirit that Jesus had as he walked the earth? You make the Holy Spirit a third person and the only one with a Spirit.

This is humans:

We have a spirit within our physical body.

Our spirit within us is us.

When our body dies, our spirit still lives on in consciousness. Our physical body is dead, but our spirit doesn't die, it lives on.

Jesus is from heaven and came to earth in a flesh body, but his spirit was the Spirit of God come as a man's. God the Father really came as a man.

When Jesus died on the cross, he lived on in his spirit, where he went to prison/hell, where he preached the gospel to those who had sinned and died and went even a long time ago.
Then, Jesus, in his spirit, he raised that flesh body and appeared to many for awhile, and then ascended back to heaven where his flesh body was gloried by being the first Spiritual physical body that all the saved will have one day. It is the same body Jesus had with the Father before ever coming to earth.
Jesus is the First and the Last.
Jesus had the first body of the last body we will all have one day.

 

[God's Truth]

When Jesus died and went to prison/hell, the gates of hell could not keep him there.
Jesus is the Truth, and the Way, and the gates of hell could not overcome him, God.
Jesus, in his spirit, raised his own body.
This is all in the scriptures.