BROTHERHOOD OF THE URANTIA FANATICS!

[journey]

I don't think his forum can have too many trolls here. Think of what the middle east is doing the France. Everyone here has packet ID numbers leading them right back to each houses. This a very big responsibly for all of us not to be bullies here for the sake of other lives. No one take kindness seriously.

LOVE is the key

Trolls kills

DUH? Disagreement with false teaching is NOT trolling.

 

[TulipBee]

DUH? Disagreement with false teaching is NOT trolling.

you may have false teachings as well.

Debate peacefully.

We're not on Jerry Springer or in rome gladiator courts.

We don't need to cheer for more pain or death.

It teaches our children war.

We all need to work together to keep TOL safe cause our posts could be traced back to the members.

 

[freelight]

you may have false teachings as well.

Debate peacefully, not GM bullyism style with entertainments.

We're not on Jerry Springer or in rome gladiator courts.

We don't need to cheer for more pain.

It teaches our children war.

:thumb:




pj

 

[freelight]

Miss............

Miss............

Do a Google search for "Urantia UFO Cult" and read for days if you want to. You'll even find some sites that support this nonsense.

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"Introduction

This fast growing cult is considered a "new age", UFO cult. It is based on a book called the "Urantia" book. The word "Urantia" is allegedly an ancient name for the Earth. This cult is also known as the "Urantia Society", "Urantia Foundation", "Urantia Fellowship" and the "Urantia Brotherhood". Like other cults that claim extra-Biblical revelations, it is claimed that the Urantia book compliments the Bible, and that Christians should not be wary of it. But in reality, the Urantia book is in direct conflict with the Bible on many important doctrines, including the most important one which is the issue of salvation from eternal damnation in Hell through faith in Jesus Christ."

Quoted from: http://creationists.org/cults-urantia.html
Click here to read much more.

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"One of the older UFO groups represented was the Jesusonian Foundation, which follows the teachings of The Urantia Book. According to the foundation’s booklet, “Origins of The Urantia Book,” the 2,000-plus page book was penned by “numerous supermortal (angel-like) beings” working in accord with a small group of people headed by a Chicago psychiatrist in the 1920s. The Urantia Book teaches that God is a “trinity of trinities,” that the human race never had a fall, and that humans are moving forward through progressive revelation to become fused with God. The book also gives a derailed “account” (or gospel) of the life of Christ which declares that Jesus did not die to satisfy the Father’s justice and wrath."

Quoted from: http://www.equip.org/article/ufo-cults-are-flourishing-in-new-age-circles/#christian-books-4

Already addressed these erroneous claims here with proofs. Your linked articles are only assumptions and misnomers held by some uninformed critics. The Urantia Foundation is Not a ufo cult. Its often assumed to be associated with some ufo related groups because its cosmology including many inhabited worlds, multiple universes, vast angelic orders and genetic programming concepts.....but ufos are NOT mentioned in the UB at all. These are all only assumtpions based on some vague correlaries based on false associations and ignorance.

The text speaks for itself....for those drawn to study it. No UFOs are necessary in this context.



pj

 

[freelight]

LOVE is the key

Absolutely.....since God is love.

Thats the mark of a true follower of Yahshua





pj

 

[TulipBee]

Absolutely.....since God is love.

Thats the mark of a true follower of Yahshua





pj

So much love with power that might change your mind about the old stories of the bible

 

[journey]

Already addressed these erroneous claims here with proofs. Your linked articles are only assumptions and misnomers held by some uninformed critics. The Urantia Foundation is Not a ufo cult. Its often assumed to be associated with some ufo related groups because its cosmology including many inhabited worlds, multiple universes, vast angelic orders and genetic programming concepts.....but ufos are NOT mentioned in the UB at all. These are all only assumtpions based on some vague correlaries based on false associations and ignorance.

The text speaks for itself....for those drawn to study it. No UFOs are necessary in this context.



pj

No "PROOFS" - just "OPINIONS", and we all have one. I noticed that you completely avoided ALL of the other content of the quoted material, so I assume by your silence that you agree with it. You simply wanted to contest the "urantia UFO CULT" reference.

 

[freelight]

No "PROOFS" - just "OPINIONS", and we all have one. I noticed that you completely avoided ALL of the other content of the quoted material, so I assume by your silence that you agree with it. You simply wanted to contest the "urantia UFO CULT" reference.

I gave proofs in my posts and linked articles on the UFO subject. The facts. I know the subject, unlike your biased assumptions. As to your comment of ignoring other points mentioned in your articles (same regurgitated polemics)...we've treated those subjects many times over in the respective threads. You need to brush up on your reading and research if you want to engage the topic honestly.

No UFOs or little green men are associated with the UB whatsoever. If you want to test your intellect and stretch your imagination...you'd consider concepts in the papers that transcend your doctrinal 'status quo'...which takes some courage. As they say...."nothing ventured, nothing gained".


pj

 

[journey]

I gave proofs in my posts and linked articles on the UFO subject. The facts. I know the subject, unlike your biased assumptions. As to your comment of ignoring other points mentioned in your articles (same regurgitated polemics)...we've treated those subjects many times over in the respective threads. You need to brush up on your reading and research if you want to engage the topic honestly.

No UFOs or little green men are associated with the UB whatsoever. If you want to test your intellect and stretch your imagination...you'd consider concepts in the papers that transcend your doctrinal 'status quo'...which takes some courage. As they say...."nothing ventured, nothing gained".


pj

OPINIONS, and they don't mean a thing to me. I'll send you a message by carrier pigeon if I see one that I agree with. I won't be spending any time on the ub (urantia baloney).

 

[patrick jane]

Already addressed these erroneous claims here with proofs. Your linked articles are only assumptions and misnomers held by some uninformed critics. The Urantia Foundation is Not a ufo cult. Its often assumed to be associated with some ufo related groups because its cosmology including many inhabited worlds, multiple universes, vast angelic orders and genetic programming concepts.....but ufos are NOT mentioned in the UB at all. These are all only assumtpions based on some vague correlaries based on false associations and ignorance.

The text speaks for itself....for those drawn to study it. No UFOs are necessary in this context.



pj

i try not to judge or condemn people. i'm friends with you freelight. i stay informed on things that others believe, to put myself in their shoes or thought process. i try. i've thought the few things i have seen that came directly from urantia. i never heard of urantia, until TOL. others have thought the same things too. simplify. whenever possible. it's not lazy, it's eye opening. mind opening. i never really see you posting actual urantia claims or details. i see people attacking and reaction. maybe if you ignored everybody and just posted what you think we should hear, some would have interest. instead of defending posts, smother us with facts and details. just a suggestion, maybe you've tried that. anyway, i will go to my fb someday soon. - :banned:

 

[patrick jane]

Absolutely.....since God is love.

Thats the mark of a true follower of Yahshua

in a simple way, doesn't URANTIA boil down to wanting indepedence for your soul ? to move on after this brief life on earth, and maybe travel the stars by yourself, or with everybody ? just free to do anything forever ? SELF - you don't want to lose it. "those who try to save their life" . . . you know the quote

could it be as simple as just, we all want more of something ? anything ? nobody wants to think, this could be it. nothing. The Bible tells us. not matter and anti-matter, and physics or dna. they prove God. and God came to earth through Jesus Christ. way more amazing than urantia theory. it is just plain MORE FUN exploring and absorbing The Bible. you might look back (God Willing), and see the time spent here as - off course.
i can imagine being spirit and energy or light. Being. WITH GOD. JESUS. and everyone and everything. knowing, without words. being free and being one with all. God. you're not giving up yourself, or your "freelight" away, by following and knowing Jesus. i heard people say more about Jesus, and short bursts in churches, but nothing in-depth. just bits and pieces.

I had to find out what all the fuss was about. i used to hear christians talking sometimes, and thought . . they're kinda wierd, i don't really get it. it just happened, after much prayer and exposure to God's Word. there was a time in my life when i thought The Bible was too boring, no real deep thought there. i was SO wrong. it is the only Book i read. i do not read online or on devices. print only, for me. - sorry if i seem preachy. i know you are firm in your assessments and i guess i'm curious about why you get excited about urantia

 

[freelight]

i try not to judge or condemn people. i'm friends with you freelight. i stay informed on things that others believe, to put myself in their shoes or thought process. i try. i've thought the few things i have seen that came directly from urantia. i never heard of urantia, until TOL. others have thought the same things too. simplify. whenever possible. it's not lazy, it's eye opening. mind opening. i never really see you posting actual urantia claims or details. i see people attacking and reaction. maybe if you ignored everybody and just posted what you think we should hear, some would have interest. instead of defending posts, smother us with facts and details. just a suggestion, maybe you've tried that. anyway, i will go to my fb someday soon. - :banned:

I've expounded extensively on subjects relative to the UB, see my posts and click on their links. Im exposing misrepresentation and calling ignorance as I see it....correcting errors. There are no UFOs in the UB, and no association with any. See for yourself. All other doctrinal topics are open season to discuss, and have been. See past discussions.

Waiting on FB,......get with the program Fun to chat there. For those with yahoo messenger I chat there too. See link lower right corner of posts.




pj

 

[freelight]

growing up.........

growing up.........

OPINIONS, and they don't mean a thing to me.

Honesty demands we see 'opinions' as 'opinions'. Your statement shows a closed, pre-opinionated mind.....not open to be challenged or to research your assumptions. My posts have proved there is no UFO connection with the UB....I know whereof I speak, having knowledge, not just heresay.

I'll send you a message by carrier pigeon if I see one that I agree with.

You apparently know little of the principles and values I hold to or my eclectic religious background and versatility of study. The ancient wisdom and universal truth-principles hold for all conscious beings; love is the unifying law for all.

No pigeon is necessary.....remember God is omnipresent

There is no place empty of Him.

I won't be spending any time on the ub (urantia baloney).

Thats fine journey,....no one was twisting your arm or forcing you to engage the subject, except when you do engage it and make claims about it....you need to know the subject to have a properly informed discussion, or be called out by one who knows better. Thats my recent pet peeve....people ignorantly claiming something that is not true or factual. The religious truths and principles still hold in any case which relay the highest morals and ethics. Spending too much time on red herrings obscures the fundamental issues which have God as their center and circumference. God is infinite.

All are welcome to engage in creative dialogue.....thats what im about...as life is a journey/adventure in consciousness. God is one, yet his forms are many.


pj

 

[freelight]

There is more. Earning your learning......

There is more. Earning your learning......

Absolutely.....since God is love.

Thats the mark of a true follower of Yahshua

patrick jane wrote:

in a simple way, doesn't URANTIA boil down to wanting indepedence for your soul ? to move on after this brief life on earth, and maybe travel the stars by yourself, or with everybody ? just free to do anything forever ? SELF - you don't want to lose it. "those who try to save their life" . . . you know the quote

The UB teaches doing the will of God is the most important thing...it ensures eternal survival and immortality of the soul. Ego is not to be unduly worshipped, only the Father is worthy of such.

could it be as simple as just, we all want more of something ? anything ? nobody wants to think, this could be it. nothing. The Bible tells us. not matter and anti-matter, and physics or dna. they prove God. and God came to earth through Jesus Christ. way more amazing than urantia theory.

Life includes all. Jesus is God incarnate in the UB...but you'd need to understand how by learning. The 'bestowal' of Jesus is indeed a wonderful and holy mystery. You apparently need to research your concept of 'urantia theory' to see if its an accurate analysis. Read the thread if interested and access teaching portals....its free. The only cost is your time to research. Earning is part of learning. Education is key.

it is just plain MORE FUN exploring and absorbing The Bible. you might look back (God Willing), and see the time spent here as - off course.
i can imagine being spirit and energy or light. Being. WITH GOD. JESUS. and everyone and everything. knowing, without words. being free and being one with all. God. you're not giving up yourself, or your "freelight" away, by following and knowing Jesus. i heard people say more about Jesus, and short bursts in churches, but nothing in-depth. just bits and pieces.

Im having fun with a holistic theology, all-inclusive

I had to find out what all the fuss was about. i used to hear christians talking sometimes, and thought . . they're kinda wierd, i don't really get it. it just happened, after much prayer and exposure to God's Word. there was a time in my life when i thought The Bible was too boring, no real deep thought there. i was SO wrong. it is the only Book i read. i do not read online or on devices. print only, for me. - sorry if i seem preachy.

You're at one point along a long path of evolution....so can only see a narrow sliver at the moment. The 'sliver' does not represent the whole being only a part of it. There is always more.

I'd include online reading/studies as well.....get a kindle im typing this now on my 3rd gen. Kindle fire. I prefer my desktop at home...being commander at the terminal....but visiting a friend out of town. I love paper books too....got a library.....but e-books expand your access.

i know you are firm in your assessments and i guess i'm curious about why you get excited about urantia.

Im quite flexible....firm in certain fundamentals. Its mostly newbies assuming im a UB enthusiast only....just because I post in that thread alot serving as an expositor. It a good synthesizer of religion, science and philosophy....hence my exploring the concepts share. Most of my older threads were deleted in system purges....only have a few extant ones. See here.


pj

 

[journey]

freelight,

You just don't get it. I'm not impressed at all about what you think that you know or what your religious background is. In fact, I feel sorry for you. You need Jesus Christ in your life, not the urantia junk or the garbage links in your signature area. It appears that you are gullible enough to believe almost anything, yet you reject the TRUTH of the Gospel of the Grace of God. There's nothing intellectual about embracing all of that garbage - just the opposite. The best I can probably do for you is to pray for you. In the meantime, you should know that you're an enemy of the Cross and the Gospel of the Grace of God.

 

[Aimiel]

Do a Google search for "Urantia UFO Cult" and read for days if you want to. You'll even find some sites that support this nonsense.

==========

"Introduction

This fast growing cult is considered a "new age", UFO cult. It is based on a book called the "Urantia" book. The word "Urantia" is allegedly an ancient name for the Earth. This cult is also known as the "Urantia Society", "Urantia Foundation", "Urantia Fellowship" and the "Urantia Brotherhood". Like other cults that claim extra-Biblical revelations, it is claimed that the Urantia book compliments the Bible, and that Christians should not be wary of it. But in reality, the Urantia book is in direct conflict with the Bible on many important doctrines, including the most important one which is the issue of salvation from eternal damnation in Hell through faith in Jesus Christ."

Quoted from: http://creationists.org/cults-urantia.html
Click here to read much more.

==========

"One of the older UFO groups represented was the Jesusonian Foundation, which follows the teachings of The Urantia Book. According to the foundation’s booklet, “Origins of The Urantia Book,” the 2,000-plus page book was penned by “numerous supermortal (angel-like) beings” working in accord with a small group of people headed by a Chicago psychiatrist in the 1920s. The Urantia Book teaches that God is a “trinity of trinities,” that the human race never had a fall, and that humans are moving forward through progressive revelation to become fused with God. The book also gives a derailed “account” (or gospel) of the life of Christ which declares that Jesus did not die to satisfy the Father’s justice and wrath."

Quoted from: http://www.equip.org/article/ufo-cults-are-flourishing-in-new-age-circles/#christian-books-4

Excellent post!!! :thumb:

 

[WizardofOz]

All I see is a handful of posters who should utilize the 'ignore' function

 

[freelight]

Excellent post!!! :thumb:

But false in the UFO connection. Thats a fact. Also no official cult connected with the UB since its against such a concept. You may not agree with its doctrine, but dont promote false associations and assumptions. See here.




pj

 

[Aimiel]

It isn't false at all. The demons who inspired the UB identify themselves in the UB as 'celestial beings' and that means: not of earthly origin. That makes them alien to our planet. That makes them UFO people. :duh:

 

[freelight]

It isn't false at all. The demons who inspired the UB identify themselves in the UB as 'celestial beings' and that means: not of earthly origin. That makes them alien to our planet. That makes them UFO people. :duh:

It is false from an UB perspective, and I make my case why in my posts which any can inspect for themselves. Your semantics above is what brings in unnecessary associations, since no UFOs are indicated with the UB in any way. The celestial beings authoring various parts of the papers are not 'aliens' as we imagine in pop-culture...but celestial ministers from various orders from the spirit-world, angels, etc. No human or humanoid like beings from other planets were involved in the writing of the papers....so no 'aliens' in that sense. If you want to study UFOlogy you'll have to go elsewhere...there are other threads on that.

I grow somewhat tired of having to repeat myself on these matters, when people can research my commentary and links to further explanations already said. Its not rocket-science folks.

Again, the red herrings stink after awhile. Doctrinal issues concerning UB principles have been hashed out before on the main thread, so perhaps a different direction can be explored in these dialogues of a beneficial nature....creatively and kindly. This will be a challenge if posters can manage a new approach or nuance of discussion. For that I've always been :thumb:

Ive got other studies on the back burner, and new thread ideas. The UB is not my primary focus, it so happens to be with high activity of antagonists and my correcting misrepresentations.


pj