Ben Carson is pro-abortion.

[ok doser]

Of course you can cause an abortion with a medication, since "abortion" means termination of pregnancy, no matter what the method involved or the size of the embryo.

On the contrary.

don't confuse the horn with facts

Should a rapist be rewarded by passing on his horrid DNA?

:think: should a rapist be forced to provide child support?

 

[elohiym]

Since several of the candidates have similar views, I'll ask again, why are you singling him out?

Carson is a frontrunner who shouldn't be.

Are you part of the take down the leading Republican candidate bunch?

No. Are you part of the prop up the lame duck Republican candidate so Hillary can easily win bunch?

 

[brewmama]

Carson is a frontrunner who shouldn't be.



No. Are you part of the prop up the lame duck Republican candidate so Hillary can easily win bunch?

No, I just think this is not an honest critique. If there are legitimate arguments against Carson, let's hear them instead of making one up.

 

[jgarden]

Where Carson stands on abortion is largely immaterial because Roe v Wade is the law of the land and is not about to be overturned any time soon.

GWB solicited the proLife vote but did little to advance the cause once he was in office.

 

[aikido7]

Actually, no, I didn't notice that. I did notice the extreme hostility and "gotcha" nature of the questioners, and think the candidates were more than justified.

Look at some transcripts. The candidates turned on the media after being asked questions they could not answer. It's a familiar gambit. I see it on TOL often when other posters are unable or unwilling to answer my questions.

And too many questions are silly and unfair. The networks are ratings-driven so while understandable, they should set a good example for American journalism.

There is a "gotcha" culture these days. The pinning down of Carson's statement to the gunman is only one example. Trying to get Trump to talk about specifics is another. Benghazi and Clinton's emails are two examples.

Politicians learn to say things without addressing the matter honestly and clearly. They are afraid of looking weak or misinformed. John Boehner stepped down because he could not resolve his experience in governing with the wishes of the Freedom Caucus in the House.

I see many in the GOP afraid to speak the truth to the obstructionists.
The party embraced the Tea Party but it has become a dangerous ride on a tiger that cannot be tamed.

 

[brewmama]

Look at some transcripts. The candidates turned on the media after being asked questions they could not answer. It's a familiar gambit. I see it on TOL often when other posters are unable or unwilling to answer my questions.

And too many questions are silly and unfair. The networks are ratings-driven so while understandable, they should set a good example for American journalism.

There is a "gotcha" culture these days. The pinning down of Carson's statement to the gunman is only one example. Trying to get Trump to talk about specifics is another. Benghazi and Clinton's emails are two examples.

Politicians learn to say things without addressing the matter honestly and clearly. They are afraid of looking weak or misinformed. John Boehner stepped down because he could not resolve his experience in governing with the wishes of the Freedom Caucus in the House.

I see many in the GOP afraid to speak the truth to the obstructionists.
The party embraced the Tea Party but it has become a dangerous ride on a tiger that cannot be tamed.

"So it came as no surprise when Becky Quick asked Ted Cruz what he was going to do about the fact that women earn 77% of what men make. This claim has been made for four decades; it’s almost as old as Becky. It has 999 lives. No matter how many times it’s refuted by economists, the mantra is repeated -- like the similarly discredited claim that intelligence tests are culturally biased. Women earn less than men because of the career choices they make, for some obvious and some not so obvious reasons. Women are not paid 77% of men with the same experience doing the same job. Apart from its being illegal, no company would pass on the opportunity to grow its bottom line by a 23% reduction in labor costs. Cruz had a chance to expose the lie, but passed on it.

It was also not a surprise that questioners were uninterested in the economic plans of the candidates. Ted Cruz had to interrupt to talk about his own. By my count, there were 30 questions asked of the candidates. Eight of these were on non-economic subjects, including gun control and climate change. Of the other 22, four were about personal finances or business decisions: Trump on his bankruptcies, Rubio on his liquidating a retirement fund, Fiorina on HP stock prices, and Carson on his relationship with Mannatech. Of the remaining 18 questions, 6 were asked by the three “guest” panelists, Jim Cramer, Rick Santelli, and Sharon Epperson. So on monetary and fiscal policy, the three primary questioners asked 12 questions, versus 8 on other subjects.

Reading over the transcript, I was again impressed by Ted Cruz’s intelligence. Not only did he brilliantly turn the tables on the stooges, but he understands what is lost on the obtuse Jeb and on John Kasich: if you want to win over someone else’s supporters (Paul’s and Huckabee’s, in Cruz’s case), you don’t attack their candidate, you praise him.

Reading the transcript also makes clear exactly how nasty and combative Quintanilla and Harwood were. If Hillary’s staff were writing the questions, they could hardly have done a better job."



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[elohiym]

No, I just think this is not an honest critique.

What is dishonest about claiming the man supports abortion when he supports abortion in certain cases?

If there are legitimate arguments against Carson, let's hear them instead of making one up.

Pointing out that he would support abortion in the case of rape or incest supports an argument against his character. We can discuss his lack of government experience, lack of business experience and lack of military experience if you want, but here I was hoping to focus attention on his abortion views in hopes it will cause people to think and ask more questions ... about the candidate ... and about the idea of murdering an unborn child because she was conceived in rape.

 

[brewmama]

What is dishonest about claiming the man supports abortion when he supports abortion in certain cases?

I have explained it already.

Pointing out that he would support abortion in the case of rape or incest supports an argument against his character. We can discuss his lack of government experience, lack of business experience and lack of military experience if you want, but here I was hoping to focus attention on his abortion views in hopes it will cause people to think and ask more questions ... about the candidate ... and about the idea of murdering an unborn child because she was conceived in rape.

Since few of the candidates differ from him in that regard, it seems spurious to focus on that. I hardly see this as a slam against his character. He seems a most honorable man. As for lack of military experience, that seems pretty standard for most recent Presidents. Doctors do actually possess business experience. If that is your criteria then the only really acceptable candidates (other than the abortion issue) would be Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina.

Lack of government experience is seen as a positive attribute to a huge number of Republican voters, and I can see why.

Also, as far as the rape & incest only abortion issue goes, there is absolutely nothing that a President can do to affect that. It is a moot point. The only ones that can affect that are Supreme Court justices and legislators. Since he is generally anti-abortion, I'm sure he would appoint anti-abortion judges.

By the way, in case you are interested, Ted Cruz is my guy, but I think Carson is quite admirable and would make a much better Pres. than the one we currently have. I don't like to see him maligned unfairly.

 

[jeffblue101]

He castigated the survivors of the recent church shooting and said they should have rushed the gunman and overpowered him.

A quote from Carson some years ago surfaced and he tells the interview about a gunman putting his weapon in his ribs at a Popeye's chicken place. And Carson says he told the gunman: "I think you want the guy at the counter."

Strange.

Carson addressed your concerns at the 3:05 to 6:53 mark of the CNN interview.

 

[Jefferson]

Let's not pretend that Ben Carson is anti-abortion.

Agreed.

 

[aikido7]

Let's not pretend that Ben Carson is anti-abortion. Clearly, he is pro-abortion with exceptions.

Women who get pregnant from rape or incest should be able to go to the emergency room for an "abortion pill," Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson said Thursday.

Speaking on Fox News Channel’s “Your World with Neil Cavuto,” the anchor asked Carson if he believes women should be able to get abortions in cases of rape or incest.

“I would hope that they would very quickly avail themselves of the emergency room, and in the emergency room, they have the ability to administer RU-486 and other possibilities before you have a developing fetus,” Carson said, more than five minutes into the interview.​

His position on abortion appears consistent with his Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) beliefs. The SDA position on abortion includes the following statements:

...Abortions for reasons of birth control, gender selection, or convenience are not condoned by the Church. Women, at times however, may face exceptional circumstances that present serious moral or medical dilemmas, such as significant threats to the pregnant woman's life, serious jeopardy to her health, severe congenital defects carefully diagnosed in the fetus, and pregnancy resulting from rape or incest. The final decision whether to terminate the pregnancy or not should be made by the pregnant woman after appropriate consultation....

...any attempts to coerce women either to remain pregnant or to terminate pregnancy should be rejected as infringements of personal freedom.​

He is also pro-“no free speech” and pro-lack of critical thinking and common sense.

Ben Carson is really disappointing me. I used to kind of like him at first. He seems like such a phony to me. Just because he talks in a whisper does not mean he does not know the art of political speech today.

 

[brewmama]

He is also pro-“no free speech” and pro-lack of critical thinking and common sense.

What are you talking about?

 

[The Horn]

Saying that contraceptives "cause abortions " is a ludicrous as saying that smoke alarms cause fires . How the heck can you "murder" a cell , or a couple of cells, or a few of them ?
This is like saying that if you throw away a few of the nuts and bolts that go into the making of an automobile, you're "destroying" a car .
An egg is NOT a chicken, and an acorn is NOT a tree .

 

[brewmama]

Saying that contraceptives "cause abortions " is a ludicrous as saying that smoke alarms cause fires . How the heck can you "murder" a cell , or a couple of cells, or a few of them ?
This is like saying that if you throw away a few of the nuts and bolts that go into the making of an automobile, you're "destroying" a car .
An egg is NOT a chicken, and an acorn is NOT a tree .

Maybe not, but an embryo IS a human being. And if a contraceptive prevents the embryo from implanting, then it is abortifacient.

 

[The Horn]

This is not how contraceptives function ; you have been mislead by
anti-choice propaganda . Pills are still vastly preferable to a surgical abortion on a partially formed and VISIBLE fetus .

 

[brewmama]

This is not how contraceptives function ; you have been mislead by
anti-choice propaganda . Pills are still vastly preferable to a surgical abortion on a partially formed and VISIBLE fetus .

I am not the one misled...The U.S. Department of
Health, Education and Welfare defined abortion as follows:

"All the measures which impair the viability of the zygote at any time
between the instant of fertilization and the completing of labor
constitute, in the strict sense procedures for inducing abortion.

And what EXACTLY is the difference between a 3 week old embryo and an 8-12 week one? A matter of weeks? It has to be visible to you to be real?

 

[elohiym]

What is dishonest about claiming the man supports abortion when he supports abortion in certain cases?

I have explained it already.

You have not supported a claim of dishonesty. I previously responded to your explanation, which didn't justify your claims, and I asked you a question that you have not answered.

Since few of the candidates differ from him in that regard, it seems spurious to focus on that.

Cavuto asked Carson the question. He was asking Carson if he shared the same position as Rubio who is against abortion in the case of rape and incest. Carson belongs to a denomination that supports abortion in cases of rape, incest and birth defects. What is spurious about focusing on that?

I hardly see this as a slam against his character. He seems a most honorable man.

A man who would support the murder of an unborn child because her father was a rapist is not an honorable man but a man of poor character.

As for lack of military experience, that seems pretty standard for most recent Presidents.

He belongs to a denomination that is historically opposed to war and bearing arms. When drafted, Seventh Day Adventists were traditionally non-combatants. The hypocrisy and irony of him as commander-in-chief ordering men into combat would be something to see, I guess.

Doctors do actually possess business experience.

They are medical specialists, and they have office managers because they are not generally business men.

Lack of government experience is seen as a positive attribute to a huge number of Republican voters, and I can see why.

Why? When Obama was running, the Republican voters saw his lack of experience as a negative attribute, and he had more government experience than Carson.

Also, as far as the rape & incest only abortion issue goes, there is absolutely nothing that a President can do to affect that.

I wasn't interested in his answer because I thought he might be able to do something.

Since he is generally anti-abortion, I'm sure he would appoint anti-abortion judges.

Would he appoint judges who would protect the lives of the unborn victims of rape and incest, or those with birth defects?

... I think Carson is quite admirable and would make a much better Pres. than the one we currently have. I don't like to see him maligned unfairly.

I'm not maligning him but fairly questioning his qualifications to hold office.

 

[brewmama]

You have not supported a claim of dishonesty. I previously responded to your explanation, which didn't justify your claims, and I asked you a question that you have not answered.

Like I have already said, if a man is against 99% of abortions, it is dishonest to say he is pro-abortion. That puts him in the camp of Hillary, Obama and the other abortion lovers. He is not.

Cavuto asked Carson the question. He was asking Carson if he shared the same position as Rubio who is against abortion in the case of rape and incest. Carson belongs to a denomination that supports abortion in cases of rape, incest and birth defects. What is spurious about focusing on that?

And yet Rubio has supported legislation that included the exception of rape and incest. I don't blame him for it, it makes political sense to fight against abortion in incremental steps, as much as you can. But this is what makes your claim spurious, along with the fact that Presidents can't really do much about the legality of abortion, AND the fact that you keep arguing against "his denomination" and what they stand for rather than him. I guess that is what this is really all about.

He belongs to a denomination that is historically opposed to war and bearing arms. When drafted, Seventh Day Adventists were traditionally non-combatants. The hypocrisy and irony of him as commander-in-chief ordering men into combat would be something to see, I guess.

Here we go with the denomination again. I don't really care what his denomination says. Are you one of those that helped get Obama elected by not voting for Romney because he was a Mormon?

They are medical specialists, and they have office managers because they are not generally business men.

They do a lot more than you think, especially those involved in running hospitals and keeping hospitals budgeted.

Why? When Obama was running, the Republican voters saw his lack of experience as a negative attribute, and he had more government experience than Carson.

And now things are different. The electorate seem to prefer non-politicians.

Would he appoint judges who would protect the lives of the unborn victims of rape and incest, or those with birth defects?

That stupid ridiculous line in the sand has never been used in appointing judges.