Arkansas Church Kicks Out Young Gay Man For ‘Choosing A Sinful Lifestyle’

[ok doser]

I see you still aren't bright enough to know that homosexuals are sexual perverts and not a minority.

he has redefined "minority" to fit homosexuals

unfortunately, he's left with the dilemma that by his definition, pedophiles are also a minority

 

[ok doser]

Bah, humbug. Homosexuality is no more inherently sinful than is heterosexuality. EVERY generation of humans are about 2-4% homosexual, do you consider that an anomaly, something to be removed from the gene pool? If you do consider that God does not seem to agree.

every generation of humans are about 5% pedophilic

should they be seen as "variants of normal" or as perverts?

 

[bybee]

Serial killers are a minority.

Thank God!

 

[bybee]

A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.

And, if one doesn't give half-a-rat's-hind-end about belonging or not belonging then one is a party of one. So delightful. Always in good company.

 

[musterion]

A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.

Should all convicted pedophiles be imprisoned and removed from society? I include in that term anyone who attempted or succeeded in sexually seducing a child.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Should all convicted pedophiles be imprisoned and removed from society? I include in that term anyone who attempted or succeeded in sexually seducing a child.

yep, and quickly

 

[genuineoriginal]

God is not schizophrenic. It is the interpretations of him that come across as schizophrenic.

There you go making assumptions again and disparaging God in the process.

 

[aikido7]

Don't lie to yourself about it.
You clearly assume that the statements made by God in these verses make Him schizophrenic.

Exodus 34:6-7 6 And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.​

You are misinformed. I clearly assume that the statements made by Jesus about his Father do not make him schizophrenic or consumed by blood lust for the death of his son.

"But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

AND

"...so that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. For He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.'

AND

"Who made ME a judge?"

OR

"Why do you call ME good? Only God is good!"

 

[aikido7]

There you go making assumptions again and disparaging God in the process.

Is this judgment of me an assumption as well?

 

[genuineoriginal]

You are misinformed. I clearly assume that the statements made by Jesus about his Father do not make him schizophrenic or consumed by blood lust for the death of his son.

We are talking about how you cannot reconcile the statements made by God Himself that He commanded to be written down by Moses and the statements made by Jesus that were written down by His disciples.

Leviticus 26:27-33 27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; 28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. 29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. 30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you. 31 And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours. 32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it. 33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.​

Luke 21:22-23 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.​

You claim that God must be schizophrenic if He actually does what He declares that He will do.

 

[PureX]

Many more male homosexuals proportionally were homosexually molested as youngsters, compared with male heterosexuals.

What does that mean? There could be any number if reasons for this correlation (if it's even true). Yet you are just assuming it means what you want it to mean, without question. And then you're using that assumption to pass judgment on other human beings, which you have neither the right nor the wisdom to be judging.

Human male sex drive is like a gun, automatically controlled to target. What the gun targets is beyond our control, but we have control over whether to pull the trigger.

You have no idea what other people can or cannot control. Again, you make these completely unfounded and unconsidered assumptions so that you can use them to judge and condemn other people, which you have neither the right nor the wisdom to be judging at all.

Which is why it's a sin to act on the temptation to rape a child.

The sin IS the desire to act on it. Whether one acts on it or not.

Just as your sin is your desire to judge and condemn other humans beings when you have neither the right nor the necessary insight to do so.

 

[PureX]

If a church is nothing more than a theology club, which many of them are, then they have every right to exclude those who won't adhere to the club rules.

But when they pretend they are the representatives of Christ, and then they behave like a redneck theology club, in Christ's name, they are misrepresenting themselves, and misrepresenting Christ. I couldn't care less about their theology club. I do care that they misrepresent themselves with the intent to lure people in, and then misrepresent Christ, by condemning and shunning those they lured in and rejected.

 

[Angel4Truth]

If a church is nothing more than a theology club, which many of them are, then they have every right to exclude those who won't adhere to the club rules.

But when they pretend they are the representatives of Christ, and then they behave like a redneck theology club, in Christ's name, they are misrepresenting themselves, and misrepresenting Christ. I couldn't care less about their theology club. I do care that they misrepresent themselves with the intent to lure people in, and then misrepresent Christ, by condemning and shunning those they lured in and rejected.

You dont even believe the bible is legit, why would you think your opinion on what is biblical or not, matters?

 

[brewmama]

What does that mean? There could be any number if reasons for this correlation (if it's even true). Yet you are just assuming it means what you want it to mean, without question. And then you're using that assumption to pass judgment on other human beings, which you have neither the right nor the wisdom to be judging.

So you are saying that following the 2000 year old caveats of the Church is being judgmental and we have no right to do? You are making up your own new rules according to the desires of the world and you say WE are the ones without wisdom?

You have no idea what other people can or cannot control. Again, you make these completely unfounded and unconsidered assumptions so that you can use them to judge and condemn other people, which you have neither the right nor the wisdom to be judging at all.
The sin IS the desire to act on it. Whether one acts on it or not.
Just as your sin is your desire to judge and condemn other humans beings when you have neither the right nor the necessary insight to do so.

Just like you do.

 

[lifeisgood]

Should all convicted pedophiles be imprisoned and removed from society? I include in that term anyone who attempted or succeeded in sexually seducing a child.

No.
Fire squad should be prepared.
The Gospel of salvation preached.
After the altar call for acceptance or rejection of salvation.
Fire.

 

[PureX]

So you are saying that following the 2000 year old caveats of the Church is being judgmental and we have no right to do? You are making up your own new rules according to the desires of the world and you say WE are the ones without wisdom?

I'm simply saying it's unChristlike. You can follow whatever beliefs you want. But calling one's self a Christian doesn't make one a Christian. And neither does following 2000 year old Jewish biases against homosexuality.

 

[ok doser]

... and then they behave like a redneck theology club, in Christ's name...

my, what a big imagination you have, granny :chuckle:

 

[Idolater]

I didn't judge anybody. I very carefully did not judge anybody. But you very recklessly judged me for judging others, when I've done no such thing.

Unless you feel that I've judged child rapists and murdereds? I didn't even do that. I pointed out that we all think that child rapists and murderers should be penalized. Unless you disagree?

What does that mean? There could be any number if reasons for this correlation (if it's even true). Yet you are just assuming it means what you want it to mean, without question. And then you're using that assumption to pass judgment on other human beings, which you have neither the right nor the wisdom to be judging.
You have no idea what other people can or cannot control. Again, you make these completely unfounded and unconsidered assumptions so that you can use them to judge and condemn other people, which you have neither the right nor the wisdom to be judging at all.
The sin IS the desire to act on it. Whether one acts on it or not.

Just as your sin is your desire to judge and condemn other humans beings when you have neither the right nor the necessary insight to do so.

 

[brewmama]

I'm simply saying it's unChristlike. You can follow whatever beliefs you want. But calling one's self a Christian doesn't make one a Christian. And neither does following 2000 year old Jewish biases against homosexuality.

How is it unChristlike?
Did he not say, go and sin no more? Call people hypocrites, fools, dogs, and specify who would go to hell? You call the church since the Apostles nothing but Jewish biases? Make up your own unbiblical rules on morality and think they are superior? Wow, how can you survive that rarified air you live in?

 

[bybee]

How is it unChristlike?
Did he not say, go and sin no more? Call people hypocrites, fools, dogs, and specify who would go to hell? You call the church since the Apostles nothing but Jewish biases? Make up your own unbiblical rules on morality and think they are superior? Wow, how can you survive that rarified air you live in?

Spot on!