ECT ARE THERE TWO GOSPELS HERE ??
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So why did he also go to lost Jews?
Why did he go to both then?
Because the ground was now level - both lost Jews and Gentiles had been concluded under sin, or "heathen."
Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Why did he go to both?
That he might be able to say of both...
Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
He went to both, as "heathen."
Acts 17:11, 12; Rom. 14:5; Rom. 5:6-8.
Hi Danoh , and I know that you know about Acts 9:15 , to bear God name before Gentiles , and Kings and sons of Israel !!
dan p
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There is only one good news and it is Jesus.
There isn't another good news taught by Paul.
Stop making Paul someone who continues to try to destroy the church.
There isn't another good news taught by Paul.
Stop making Paul someone who continues to try to destroy the church.
Hi GT , the Gospel of Christ , Rom 15:19 !
The Gospel of God , Rom 1:1 !
The Gospel of the Un-circumcision , Gal 2:7 !!
So what is this gospel called in Rom 5:14 ??
dan p
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There is only one gospel that saves.
Tell me about this:
1 Corinthians 10
Warnings From Israel’s History
10 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
There is more than one gospel in scripture, foolish woman.
There is not more than one Jesus Christ.
Foolish woman, a gospel of faith without works is not the same as a gospel of faith with works.
Jerry Shugart
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Which gospel speaks of faith with works?
Interplanner
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We 'show' our faith by our works, like Rahab helping the spies. It is always that sense, not the idea of putting God in debt to us.
That would make Adam an apostle.
Matthew 16 KJV
(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
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That is not a command for the new covenant. It is not right to mock Jesus.
Jesus gave commands for the new covenant, and then he died on the cross for the new covenant and will.
Hebrews 9:15Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant. 16In the case of a will, it is necessary to establish the death of the one who made it, 17because a will does not take effect until the one who made it has died; it cannot be executed while he is still alive.
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An apostle is one who was directly taught by Jesus and one who did not learn first by another man.
People doubted Paul as being an apostle because they knew he was not with Jesus while he walked the earth; so Paul explains that he was not taught by another man but was taught by Jesus after he ascended.
Jerry Shugart
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That is not "faith with works." That is speaking of the obedience of faith, an obedience which happens after someone believes and is already saved.
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Rght; Paul meant 'not of works' as in no one has to do the work of the law which are the purification works.
Paul was not saying to have faith and don't obey.
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A person has to believe and obey to get saved. Faith without works is dead and cannot save anyone.
James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.
No wonder you cannot make heads or tails out of what is said.