Right Divider
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I don't claim to be a "self appointed spokesperson". I just know what He says because He left us His Word.
So according to you, nobody knows what "God says"?
Abortion is evil
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So according to you, nobody knows what "God says"?
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Also, it's ironic that you claim to speak for God and don't even see it.
Arthur Brain
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Like many others you claim to "know what He says" and also like many others, you have differing beliefs on just what a lot of these truths happen to be.
Arthur Brain
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It would be if that's what I was doing. It isn't.
Right Divider
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Do you have a Bible? Have you ever looked inside one?
It consistently says not to murder.
Arthur Brain
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Just as well I don't advocate murder then isn't it?
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You did. Why lie about it?
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What a burn. And here I am just doubting all your claimed credentials, based on your non-ad-hominem shoddy reasoning and rhetoric.
Roll eyes.
Arthur Brain
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Nope.
Right Divider
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You said that the woman had a "absolute right to choose to kill (murder) her baby".
https://theologyonline.com/threads/abortion-is-evil.59297/post-1869115
Arthur Brain
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I know what I posted RD and your little spin is noted and also discarded.
Right Divider
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So make it clear... Does the woman have the absolute right to murder her child or not?
Arthur Brain
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It's already clear as all get out. None of my posts support murder so if you can't get that then eh, crack on.
Well you certainly don't.
Babies are made in the image of God. That's the similarity that matters.
No, no case can be made, because it's a baby, completely innocent, and because God says do not kill the innocent.
You should, because if a baby has been conceived and is then killed by the drug, then it becomes murder.
The only difference between partial-birth abortion and pre-birth abortion is the location.
It's murder both times.
Location doesn't matter at all, because it's a baby, and it's absolutely wrong to intentionally kill a baby.
Punishing the child for the sin of the father is wrong.
False. And again, I remind you that "fetus" means "baby," so your attempt to dehumanize the discussion isn't going to work.
She doesn't... Because it's a baby, and it's always wrong to intentionally kill a baby because babies are innocent and made in the image of God, and because God says "do not kill the innocent."
No exceptions should be allowed.
Claim, as in...?
He's given lesser voice because of feminism.
Who's buying?
You should have a problem with it, period.
If a baby is conceived in such a situation, then no one has the right to kill the baby.
If a baby had been conceived, then using it is murder.
Killing an innocent baby in the womb is, in fact, murder, no matter how many times you say it isn't.
Your explanations are invalid, because it is, in fact, murder.
1) If a baby is conceived as a result of rape, NO ONE has the right to kill the baby, because God said "Do not kill the innocent."
2) If someone forces himself upon a woman, and a baby is conceived as a result, NO ONE has the right to kill the Baby, because God said "Do not kill the innocent."
3) If a man rapes a woman, the man should be executed upon conviction, and the baby should be loved. The baby SHOULD NOT BE killed, because God said "Do not kill the innocent"
When it comes to killing a baby, the only thing that matters is that God said "Do not kill the innocent."
Punishing a child because he MIGHT become a monster is unjust and cruel.
I would rather would-be rapists be deterred from committing the crime by the death penalty.
And the fact that it's a baby inside her womb means that taking that pill would be murder. And since murder is wrong, then it's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of right and wrong.
She doesn't. But the fact of the matter is that because the government does not punish criminals swiftly or painfully enough, she must bear the consequences (unjustly, of course, but there's no other valid choice), and hope that the government might punish her rapist, or at least realize that her rapist will not get away with his crime forever, because he WILL be punished on judgement day.
The fact of the matter is that she has no right to take the baby's life, because God said, "DO NOT kill the innocent."
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What's clear as all get out is that you are stonewalling against Right Divider's question. Why do you refuse to just answer the question, Arthur Brain? Why do you refuse to say either "Yes [she does]" or "No [she does not]"?
Arthur Brain
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Nobody has a right to murder. That clear enough for ya now? None of my posts support any such thing.
Does that include the baby in the womb from the moment of conception?
By saying women should be allowed to take the "morning-after" pill, you do.
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He's almost always a weasel when it comes to questions like this.