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This is why saying, "The earth is not moving because we cannot feel it moving" doesn't work. You would be using the earth as a frame of reference to describe it's own movement. It's circular reasoning, and confirmation bias to say that, "because we on the earth cannot feel it moving, therefore...

It has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DISCUSSION, Dave. Stay on topic.

Equivocation, and has nothing to do with this discussion. Equivocation. It has nothing to do with this discussion. No, Dave, God created an earth that He "hangs on nothing." You can't "hang" something if it cannot be moved. So, either God contradicted Himself, or "the earth will never be...

By definition, EVERYTHING is moving, as there is no absolute frame of reference, and since a frame of reference is REQUIRED to describe movement, therefore all frames of reference are ARBITRARY, not ABSOLUTE.

Sorry Dave, but you're question begging. By definition, motion requires a "frame of reference." From Wikipedia: In physics, motion is the change in position of an object with respect to its surroundings in a given interval of time. Motion is mathematically described in terms of displacement...

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You clearly don't, because you're responses have nothing to do with the topic currently being discussed. So what? I can just as easily end it. Hypocrite. First, remove the beam from your own eye, then you can see clearly enough to remove the mote in your brother's eye. The topic is NOT...

So which atoms/molecules in solid form make up the earth, Dave? This is faulty logic. You have been shown stellar parallax, which shows the earth to be moving relative to distant stars, and the orbits of the planets in our solar system is INEXPLICABLE unless the sun is the center of our solar...

YES YOU DID. The earth is in motion relative to everything else but itself. We're talking about relative motion, Dave, by definition, that's "relativity." What we are not talking about, and I would agree with you on, is the "theory of relativity." But yes, Dave, relativity is exactly...

NO, DAVE, WATER IS NOT A SOLID! ICE is a solid. Water is a liquid. The earth is motionless relative to itself, but it is NOT MOTIONLESS relative to the sun or stars or planets. Things that move in the atmosphere see the earth as motionless, but that doesn't change the fact that the earth is...

Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave. So are you also asserting that the oceans are part of the earth as well? Water isn't a solid. It is. No, Dave. Now you're contradicting yourself. Things that move through the atmosphere are moving RELATIVE TO THE EARTH. The earth does not move relative...

You are asserting that the atmosphere is separate from the earth. That's not a negative. The onus is still on you.

You need to prove that it doesn't. You're the one bringing the challenge to the accepted standard, the onus is ON YOU to provide evidence for your challenge.

Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave.

So? You're basically agreeing with me with that statement. I said that God made earth's atmosphere different than all others, that it can support life. Would you like to retract your previous claim that the sun, stars, and moon and planets do not have atmospheres? An atmosphere is MADE of...

Sorry Dave, but you're trying to take a simple analogy to an extreme that it wasn't meant to fulfill. We are inside the atmosphere of a moving planet, Dave. Outside the atmosphere there isn't anything significant enough to "blow" against you.

:AMR: Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave. No, Dave, the atmosphere is part of the whole earth. SURE THEY ARE, DAVE! Why on earth would you say that they are not? The sun and all stars DO have an atmosphere. The moon DOES have an atmosphere. The planets DO have atmospheres. To what...

The earth does move. See how that works.

The atmosphere is part of the earth, Dave. It turns with the earth due to friction

First of all, I've pointed you to this page a number of times for a reason, Dave, learn how to use the [ QUOTE ] tags. No, Dave, I can't answer it because it's sheer stupidity. The atmosphere is part of the earth, and spins along with it. Relative to a point on the earth, the shell of the...