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Well duh. Can't undo the vile views expressed by other people Stripe. It was, what was tripping you up? Do or don't but don't start prattling on if you're not up to speed with stuff before weighing in.

To you perhaps but meh. Given the context then yeah, it was answered and that's why I brought it up as Derf doesn't consider it rape if a husband forces himself on his wife and is reduced to these silly scenarios to start with. At least you acknowledge he's an idiot for not recognizing rape...

Nope. I wouldn't want to make up some of the vile garbage being aired on this thread. I'd sooner it wouldn't even need to be addressed or Clete to even be involved but it's there more's the pity. Sure, Clete is hardly the most relaxed poster on this forum and I agree with him in single figure...

A lame one yes and I answered it accordingly. If the husband had forced sex on his wife on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday night or whatever then he'd be guilty of rape. You can read, right? Derf doesn't consider it rape if a husband forces his wife into sex as it's apparently "something else", as...

Maybe you should consult the same dictionary for "violation".

Sure they do but if you don't then eh, not that surprising. Yeah, they have otherwise there wouldn't have been so much discussion regarding it and nor would Clete have felt obliged to air such disgust as well as exasperation. Some of the comments and views aired warrant such. Earth. You...

Spam would be a step up for you. That's not what I regard concerning rape at all.

You had my answer previous. If it can be proved that a husband has forced sex on his wife then there's only one verdict: Guilty of rape. Many get away with it unfortunately.

Just as well I ain't doing that then eh? You bring nothing but lame, boring tropes ad nauseam so hey ho.

Hmm, given that plenty actually have and do then you must be nobody. Er, yeah they have. Sorry you missed it but then you did get a bit late to the "party". Why do you think Clete was so exasperated? See ya!

"Professor Toto"?! :ROFLMAO: Professor Nono more like...

Forcing sex onto another is always brutal. That's what rape is.

Yes, it is rape, there's no other word for it and you certainly haven't found one still being stuck with "something else". Your scenario is lame as anything frankly. Do you honesty think that loving married couples have sex on set days or something? If the wife complained to a friend that her...

The irony would be funny if it wasn't so tediously predictable. Not only am I not making things up for people to believe, they actually believe them without any additional aid from me. Some folk actually think that it's not rape if a husband forces himself on his wife as evidenced throughout...

Which of course doesn't justify the notion that a spouse has the right to force themselves on their partner.

He wasn't agreeing with me, he was making his own point and using the scriptures to underline how pathetic it is for anyone to even attempt to justify forcing themselves on their spouse. His exasperation was understandable as was his disgust. If you want to twist scripture itself into supporting...

Check out his posts that go in express detail, all there. You know how to search right?

Always gonna be a compliment coming from the likes of you. I handle reality just fine thanks. That does of course involve expecting you to post inane drivel like this so hey ho.

The Bible and Paul don't support your position. Clete took this all down several posts ago and whilst I don't agree with him on pretty much most issues, he had you and anyone else bang to rights on this topic who think there's no such thing as rape in a marriage. It's utterly bizarre that it...

Derf Webster? Worse names I suppose like Watta Wingnut but hey. Once again, if you had a clue as to what love and cherishing actually consists of you wouldn't even be 'arguing' with me or defending the repulsive notion of there being no rape but "something else" in marriage. Hey ho.