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  1. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Because there surely isn't any better place on TOL to post this, here's the first image of the Moon that I've shot through my new (new to me) 8" Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope. This is without even having a tripod, by the way. All I've got is the Alt-Az. mount mounted on a piece of particle board...
  2. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    No one here, least of all me, has taken anything carte blanche. There are two things that have been proven on this thread. 1. The Earth is round. 2. You do not know ANYTHING about science or rational thought.
  3. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    He does NOT care! He can read it 7000 times and it won't matter because he has taken leave of his senses.
  4. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    David, this thread has proven over and over again the FACT that the Earth is round. You HAVE ignored every argument. You assume anything that might disprove this stupidity is faked or a lie because you can't reproduce it yourself. That is the opposite of rational, it is stupidity.
  5. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Any video or other images I take will certainly be posted here! :up:
  6. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    As if it's somehow a matter of opinion. Level is perpendicular to the pull of gravity, period. EVERY LEVEL YOU HAVE EVER USED OR SEEN ANYONE ELSE USE IS BASED ENTIRELY ON THIS SINGULAR PRINCIPLE!!!! It can if by ascending you mean increasing your distance away from mean sea level which curves...
  7. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Level DOES NOT mean "not curved"! It means perpendicular to the pull of gravity. Every level you've ever used works on that single principle. If there is a related term that you could be accurately used to mean "not curved" it would be the word "true". Although that may not always be the case...
  8. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Which I granted and stated factually that, if they do so, they will increase their elevation (above sea level) by eight inches per mile squared. If the plane is not increasing its ASL then it is, by one means or another (i.e. electronically or manually), making course corrections - even if they...
  9. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Interesting idea but crapy images. The video is out of focus the whole time as shown by his shots of the Moon at the end. Not that I'm criticizing much at all. Getting any such image would be extremely hard to do because satellites can't be made to "sit still" for the camera shot with the right...
  10. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You can repeat this to yourself untill you turn blue and pass out but it won't make it true. You're sounding more and more like Einstein. No, they absolutely do not. I'm finished repeating the same arguments. It isn't faked and even if it were, you point would be irrelevant. The problem here...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I swear that I seriously wonder whether someone has hijacked your account and that I am not talking to the real David. What in Hell does auto pilot have to do with what I said? How in sulfur smelling Hades, does your pointing out something so ridiculously obvious alter one single point of what...
  12. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You're implying here that there is some sort of question begging going on here and that is flatly not the case. Unless your cosmology denies that apples don't fall from trees then what we refer to as gravity is in your cosmology as much as it is in everyone else's. And whether one is talking...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This is actually a somewhat of a critical point that should be addressed. Your claim here isn't true. The flat Earth and Earth-centered models do not come anywhere close to accounting for everything that the Helio Centric model does. NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE! In fact, it was precisely the...
  14. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    They absolutely do make such corrections. In the case of fighters or other high-tech aircraft, the corrections are made by the plane itself. The altitude (in almost all cases) is controlled by the altimeter which does not measure the distance from the ground but rather, is based on atmospheric...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes, it is, Dave. The oceans are no more attached to the Earth than the atmosphere is or than you are for that matter. The atmosphere sticks around for the same reason you do. You live at the bottom of an ocean of air. The question is what keeps the water, the atmosphere and you on the Earth...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'm sorry I get upset. It's more frustration than it is anything else. These videos you post seem to me to be so transparently dumb that it just feels like everyone should be able to detect it. That clearly isn't the case and so I'll try to be more patient. Clete
  17. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes, level to the pull of gravity! It's just the same as saying that it's perpendicular to both the pull of gravity and the curved surface of the Earth because it's the pull of gravity that curves the surface of the Earth in the first place. Level and flat are not synonymous. You can use them...
  18. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Ah! I see what you meant now. Sorry, I didn't get it. You bet! You have to listen carefully because the narrator has a very thick accent but it tells the story quite well. P.S. That video has fewer than 1000 views and only 14 likes, one of which is mine. It deserves far more in spite of his...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    He means how far. He's saying that Newton demonstrated that the same force that makes apples fall to the ground is the same that makes the Moon orbit the Earth - the Moon is in free fall and that it stays in orbit because it travels vertically relative to the Earth's surface at the same rate at...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I don't know where you're getting this stuff from but all of these points are wrong, Dave. No one knows why the Earth is tilted. We creationist believe that it was created that way. The only paradigm from which your objection works is from an atheistic worldview where such phenomena requires a...
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