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No, it isn't David. Look, I don't tolerate this sort of thing from Calvinist and I see no reason why I should tolerate it from you either. I have made actual arguments, Dave. You have made claims. One claim after another, after another. What few actual arguments exist are almost entirely on...

We have a whole hell of a lot more than NASA. You think that every satellite in orbit is owned and operated by the United States government? You know better. You knew better when you wrote this. Was this just you being the Devil's advocate, repeating some mindless argument you saw on a flat...

If the Earth is flat, the orbits of satellites are almost NEVER circular. In fact, they are usually very far away from circular and the satellites would perform impossible feats of speed. Click on the image below...

Lies that flat earthers tell...

Do you mean to suggest that you(flat earthers) believe that satelites (weather, GPS, communication, etc) are being flown in a circle? If so, what are they flying in? Airplane fly through the air, using pressure differencials above and below the wing to create sufficient lift to conteract the...

On most days, that mirage would not be present and all you'd see in your camera is the empty horizon. All arguments based on what you see in that video are thereby refuted.

Yet you claim that it is visible evidence that convinces you (flat-earthers) that the Earth is stationary and that the whole universe revolves around it once a day. Long distance shooters do have to adjust for it, it's the explanation as to why that isn't correct. It isn't that the bullet...

You can see satellite go overhead on every single clear night. They aren't planes. They aren't stars. They're man made satelites that can be predicted to the exact second where they'll be and who can see them. Every single solitary clowdless night. IMPOSSIBLE conspiracy to maintain. Space X...

The only explanation for GPS I've seen on flat-earth websites is that it works off cell phone towers, with no explanation at all of how GPS works even when you have no cell phone reception at all.

Why do you keep saying this? There is nothing that we see that contradicts a spherical Earth! There's all kinds of things we see that contradict the flat Earth model. It is not a thought experiment to say that those who live in the southern hemisphere see a south celestial pole that is not...

Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave. Make an argument.

Is this the beginning of a guilt by association argument? Let's talk about what they do not have in common. People on the flat Earth... 1. would not see the same side of the Moon from every place on Earth. 2. would not see the Moon in the same phase from every place on Earth. 3. would not...

No, it isn't! But then again, if you throw out the idea of gravity, which, aside from its cause, is one of, if not the most tested and well-understood things in all of science, then almost nothing about how the world works is intuitive. Frankly, I think we've beaten the water flow thing like a...

Dave, Why are the two celestial poles? If the Earth is flat, with the stars rotating above the stationary Earth, how can there be two celestial poles and why can't you see Polaris from Chile?

I'll try to fix it in the morning. Another thing I messed up was the metric system. I said millimeters and should have said centimeters. The average slope of the centrifugal bulge of the Earth is 1.34 centimeters per meter. That's still not very much but being off by a factor of ten is a...

Dave, Why are the two celestial poles? One for the north... And a different one for the south... If the Earth is flat, with the stars rotating above the stationary Earth, how can there be two celestial poles and why can't you see Polaris from Chile?

Dave, this sort of argument bothers me greatly. This is flat out dishonesty. I know that you're doing the whole devil's advocate thing but some arguments just aren't even worth putting out there. Up and down are relative terms. That means that up might mean an entire difference thing in one...

Yes, I realize that. In fact, that's why I said what I said in that post. Okay, so let's think this through... The centrifugal force, at no point, is even close to fully counteracting the force of gravity. At best, it modifies its strength and direction. Centrifugal force is always at 90° to...

This is not so.

I don't even think that you're thinking this through as you're saying it. If there is a flat plane then there would be nothing for the buildings to disappear behind. They would just sit directly on the horizon and get smaller and smaller with distance. There is no way that the bottom of the...