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Dave, I've remembered something that has caused me to remove you from my ignore list! There is something I want you to see. I happen to agree with you about the need to question modern cosmology. Relativity and Quantum Mechanics don't cut it for me any more than they do for you. But this flat...

A decrease that would be dramatic in the extreme! 3000 miles is 1.26% of its actual distance. It would have to be made of mostly nothing at all for the gravity to remain the same. Flat Earthers know this. It doesn't move them an inch. They are fully irrational. Well, they consider the whole...

cool video. Flat earthers must believe that the moon is many times smaller than it is which accounts for its apparent size in the sky. I wonder then how they account for the fact that our current understanding of both the Moon's size (it's mass) and it's distance accounts perfectly for the...

I agree that this has been a terrific thread, one of the best in a long time, in fact. But I just think Derf's point is right. It's become counter productive and while I'm more than happy to continue debating the topic, Dave is no longer debating. He has barely debated the topic from the...

I have done no such thing! I've done just the precise opposite. I have answered questions and rebutted arguments with sound reason and with the patience of Moses. I've not responded to moronic arguments with more moronic arguments. I've not met the fool with foolishness. In fact, I've learned...

I agree. I'm not questioning his salvation or even most of his doctrine, just his intellectual honesty concerning this specific issue for now. It's not as unimportant as it may seem. Unbelievers pay attention to the things Christian say and one Christian saying stupid things does more damage...

I defended Dave for months about discussing this topic when I believed he was simply exploring it as a mental exercise. He was lying then and he's lying now. He knows perfectly well that personal attacks aren't the problem. I addressed every argument he presented and he routinely ignored every...

I'm biased?! Okay Dave, let's see if this rolls off your back. You are now a proud member of my ignore list. If it does not embarrass you to be in company with some of the abject lunatics on that list, nothing will. The truly sad thing is that I know as I am typing this that it will not...

Anyone else would earn a place on my ignore list for such a comment. It's infuriating STUPIDITY!

And then it goes on to crush the flat Earth moronic model into dust with argument after argument that you didn't even bother to listen too much less respond too. David, the effect this debate has had on your reputation among people who otherwise agree with you doctrinally and who used to...

Yeah, and if He looked down on a sphere, He'd see a circle just like we do when we look at soccer balls that we've created. This is because spheres and circles are both round. In fact, a sphere is nothing at all other than a three dimensional circle. You can't possibly believe that this concept...

The following two videos present some of the best arguments I've seen. Ignore his insults and pay close attention to the actual arguments... https://youtu.be/JgY8zNZ35uw https://youtu.be/TeMooNFtFJk These videos also present excellent arguments... https://youtu.be/W9ksbh88OJs...

The lake analogy doesn't work because a lake is a dynamic system by definition. The only way it could work is if you were suggesting that the entire like as a whole was moving from one place to another (like from Oklahoma to Texas or something). But to answer your question directly. It refutes...

There are about 5 million or so videos that have been linked to in this thread so I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I made that comment about a gif that showed the relative sizes of major objects in the solar system. All of which were presented as spheres or almost spheres.

That is a really well made graphic video! I like it.

Listen to what you just said. "Relativity states, for example, what is moving to one person is stationary/not moving to someone else." "...something cannot be both moving and not moving at the same time in the same place to all who are present at the same place at the same time." Read what...

Another video for me to watch and debunk without any response from you except for yet another asinine video. I am finished watching your videos until you start debating this topic.

You think the Moon goes around the Earth once a day! Or is it the entire universe the does that and the Moon independently goes a bit further than once around the Earth per day? No need to answer, the questions answer themselves and are rhetorical.

It just isn't so. You just simply don't know what you're talking about. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE M-M experiment showed! OMG! Please read a history book! The Michealson-Morley experiment demonstrated that there was no aether! Einstein's work is PREDICATED upon those experimental results, not...

Here's the same image after stacking and processing the image. It's a jpg file so the image isn't as good as the original but still not bad for a first try.