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  1. Derf

    I never talk to Jesus or the Holy Spirit

    Why is Steven's case so special? Your answer seems to fit any number of cases that might be possible. I.e., if a semi-truck is about to hit your car at 70 mph, or you start to have a heart attack, or if the airplane you're in is about to crash. God could have raised Steven like He did others...
  2. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Are to serious? Peter didn't need rebuking to tell his story. Acts 11:18 (KJV) When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life. Or this time: Acts 15:6-7 (KJV) 6 And the apostles and elders came...
  3. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You don't know that.
  4. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Acts 11:19 is descriptive again. It followed the prescriptive commission in Acts 1:8. But that doesn't mean they wanted to do it. It took a number of acts of God to get them to go to the Gentiles. Finally Jesus had to appear to Saul in order to get anyone to go, beyond the direct command and...
  5. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    I'll let the death business alone for a different thread. Here's where Jesus gave the gospel to the Samaritan woman. John 4:14 (KJV) But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up...
  6. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    And that was both prescriptively and descriptively overridden. Acts 1:8 (KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Acts 8:5 (KJV)...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    And that's descriptive, but not prescriptive.
  8. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    This tells me I'm not explaining things very well. I don't think the body is everything. I recognize that there's a part of us that is immaterial. But I'm saying the immaterial parts don't function without the material parts, and neither do the material without the immaterial. Yet Jesus went...
  9. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    How could Jesus at one time tell the Jews to go to the ends of the earth to tell them how to be saved without wanting the Jews to love them? Why would he give them the story of the Good Samaritan without wanting his disciples to love Samaritans? It's interesting that @Right Divider has bowed...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Only as a matter of degree. Being saved unto eternal life is exactly the same on an ongoing basis as being saved from a single death.
  11. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Then it seems like the dichotomy is a useless one. And pointing out that those letters are written to Israelites is unnecessarily divisive, which John seemed to be writing against.
  12. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Why did John spend so much ink on telling Israelites to love one another? I guess your post is an admission, however slight, that they weren't only written to Israelites, but were focused on Israel. That might be progress.
  13. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Shipwrecks often result in some deaths, and probably a lot of deaths back then. So yes, they were saved from a future death.
  14. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yet the leader, Diotrephes, a Greek, refused to receive his letter or his authority, so he wrote to Gaius, another Greek, saying he was coming to judge Diotrephes. And if this is an example of John judging the 12 tribes, then James may well have been writing to Greek and other peoples in his...
  15. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yes! Just like Paul! Or are you saying Paul and Barnabas preached different gospels on their joint missionary journey?
  16. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yes, that's a salvation from imminent death. It's not referring to eternal life, but it's still salvation from a future death.
  17. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Jesus was talking to his disciples. James was writing to some group that was NOT in Jerusalem. Who were under the "law of liberty". James 1:25 (KJV) But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth [therein], he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man...
  18. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    “Saved” isn’t talking about salvation? You’ve really bought into this stuff, haven’t you?
  19. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Sure, if you close your eyes and plug your ears. What church do you think John would be writing to?
  20. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    We sure don't want to be like Diotrephes, rejecting the authority of those God has placed over us. 3 John 1:9-10 (KJV) 9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. 10 Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth...
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