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  1. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    I don't see why this is an issue on either side of this debate. Neither Paul's nor Peter's gospel says we can worship other gods with impunity.
  2. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    I haven't heard that one for awhile. Thanks for posting it. I'm not sure it's quite as much of a slam dunk as you think. The question that remains is whether Jesus thought "asleep" referred to the body only, or to the whole person. You and I would agree it means the whole person. But the...
  3. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You've negated any argument that says they were preaching different gospels at the same time. So while Paul was preaching the gospel of grace, according to you, the 12 could not have been preaching the gospel of the kingdom. Therefore Peter's gospel, including when he wrote his epistles, must...
  4. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Gentile Christians don't have to endure to the end? 2 Thessalonians 1:4-5 (KJV) 4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: 5 [Which is] a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye...
  5. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Maybe they were blinded by the 12's gospel so they couldn't see Paul's gospel.
  6. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    so do you think there's any benefit for Jews to choose one gospel over the other?
  7. Derf

    Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?

    Since man is dead in sins, according to your doctrine, before God makes him alive enough to hear and respond to the gospel, why does God then need to harden some people whom He doesn’t desire to save? Romans 9:18 (CSB) So then, he has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy and he hardens whom he...
  8. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Just as clearly Paul NEVER stopped preaching to Jews as a people, as shown in Acts 28. He continued to go to the Jews first, then to the Gentiles.
  9. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Paul never said the word, "trinity," either. Do you think he's preaching a gospel in Acts 28? Which one and to whom?
  10. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    That's kinda funny, because you said the gospels were different, I disagreed and said Peter and Paul preached the same gospel. You are saying Peter preached the gospel of the kingdom, and Acts 28--the very last verse in narrative form in the whole bible about Paul--says Paul was preaching the...
  11. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You seem upset.
  12. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    I think the mystery is more that Gentiles were to be included than that it's a different gospel.
  13. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Ok. But that doesn't mean Peter and Paul preached different gospels. After all Paul went through in Acts, here's what he was preaching: Acts 28:31 (KJV) Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
  14. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    This gospel indeed! And the only gospel mentioned in the passage to which "this" might apply, would be? The death of Christ. And John gives us just a wee bit more info, explaining that the "woman" was Mary, the sister of Lazarus. You remember him--the dead guy who came back to life, who...
  15. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yes, the gospel you said Jesus didn't tell them about. About his death.
  16. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    I didn't say it was not important--just not "the gospel". Jesus dying for our sins is of no use without the resurrection. Death is not the gospel. Life is the gospel.
  17. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    More than just the Jews. Matthew 26:12-13 (KJV) 12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did [it] for my burial. 13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, [there] shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a...
  18. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Sure he did. At Passover, where he treated his death as if it had already occurred. "This is my body". Matthew 26:26 (KJV) And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed [it], and brake [it], and gave [it] to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. Mark 14:24 (KJV) And he...
  19. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    But that wasn't the message to Corinth. That was Paul's attitude while there. Read the verse again. If that doesn't convince you, go read the context. While you're there, check out vs 8, which explains why Jesus didn't have the disciples teaching his death before he died.
  20. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    The cross wasn't the good news, even from Paul. He never talks of "the gospel of the cross". I don't understand the significance of your last paragraph--I never suggested he was speaking to Gentiles, random or otherwise.
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