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  1. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Daniel is still in the grave. Not over your head.
  2. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    All are saved by the death and resurrection of Christ. No one is saved any other way. Some may not have had full information about how it would work, but they are still saved the same way--because we aren't saved by our works, whether works of the law or works of any other kind. Abraham, nor...
  3. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    That happens sometimes. Sorry. You said this: You talk about me basing something on assumptions, but my assumptions aren't that complicated. No "fatness of the olive tree", etc. I would normally assume that a Gentile is a Gentile unless he isn't any longer. There are two ways that I know of...
  4. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You still haven't answered my question.
  5. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    So how is that about a different type of Gentiles than who Paul wrote Romans to?
  6. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    These are Cornelius types? Romans 11:11 (KJV) I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but [rather] through their fall salvation [is come] unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Romans 11:13 (KJV) For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of...
  7. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Ok. But you're probably wrong.
  8. Derf

    I never talk to Jesus or the Holy Spirit

    I think it is. It has the form of a prayer. And the previous verse is talking about praying. 1 Thessalonians 3:10 (KJV) Night and day praying exceedingly that we might see your face, and might perfect that which is lacking in your faith? That may be true (though it wasn't in the Old...
  9. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Maybe it's because you don't understand.
  10. Derf

    I never talk to Jesus or the Holy Spirit

    I don't see any more reason not to pray to Jesus in Paul's letters than in anyone else's writings. Here are a couple places where Paul might be endorsing praying to Jesus: 1 Thessalonians 3:11 (KJV) Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you. Colossians...
  11. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    It's really sad you've drunk of the kool aid so deeply that you're unwilling to actually read what Peter wrote. He said he wrote to the same people Paul wrote to, telling them to listen to what Paul said to them. We know what Paul wrote to them, including his rebuke of Peter, that they should...
  12. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Especially since "Christ" means the same thing as "Messiah".
  13. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Isn't it possible for him to be a member of the BOC and also have another place for him? Everything Peter wrote in scripture was written to members of the BOC, and he called himself an "elder" as their leaders were elders. He called them Christians. He said Paul had written to them (the people...
  14. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    This is well done, JR.
  15. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Perhaps one day you'll realize where Peter realized he was wrong in some areas.
  16. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Don't bother for me--I'm convinced Peter and Paul were saying the same thing in different words.
  17. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    "How"...not "where". You have to squint your eyes just right to see it.
  18. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    It doesn't matter in terms of the resurrection, because all will rise. After that, EVERYONE will believe in Jesus and his power to raise the dead! So what makes the difference after that? I'm thinking it's one's willingness to obey, we will be entering his kingdom, after all. There's a group...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    I'd be willing to say salvation can be lost, as long as we understand what that salvation is--resurrection from death. Then our names can be blotted out of the book of life, leading to the second death.
  20. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    That's what he told US! And we need to believe it. What he told Moses was different, and Moses and friends needed to believe THAT! What he told Abraham was different, still. What he told Noah was, again, different. Adam--different. But they were also the same--that God was going to resurrect...
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