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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    In exactly the way in which the passage itself says. All you have to do is read it and take it to mean what the normal meanings of the words would imply. That, unfortunately for you, means that it won't work for you. Your mind is broken. You've been brain-washed to the point that you can no...
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    Received because Given !

    Well, the wheels on the bus go round and round! Here again we have b57 ripping a single sentence completely out of its context and applying it in a manner that has nothing AT ALL to do with what was being talked about in the actual text of scripture from which it was ripped. Let's read it...
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    Not in the way you mean it, no! There isn't hardly two syllables of the English language that pertains to any Christian doctrine that you Calvinists haven't redefined so as to force it to fit into your asinine doctrine. Every word you speak is loaded with meanings that are not appearant to the...
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    Saying it doesn't make it so and focusing on one part of a sentence in order to use it as a pretext for your doctrine is the very definition of taking something out of context. That method of "bible study" is how cults get made and sustained. Thank you for conceding the debate.
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    All one has to do to understand the lie b57 is selling here is to read more than one half of one sentence of the bible at a time... Acts 18:24 Now a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man and mighty in the Scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man had been instructed in...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Let's talk a bit more about Romans 12! The first verse of Romans 12 is one of my favorites. If any of you have read my essay entitled, "Our Moral God", you'll remember that I focused a lot of attention on the Greek word "Logos" and how it does not mean "word", it means "reason". I wish that I...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Except it doesn't say that! Take the Romans 12 verse, for example. It has nothing to do with what b57 is talking about here..... Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Why oh why doesn't b57 tell you the rest of the story? Those that Calvin's god doesn't "cause to repent" go on doing what Calvin's god predestined they would do anyway. Then, when they die, they are sent to eternal punishment for doing the very things that they did not choose to do but which...
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    No "Divine Promise" (why would those words need to be capitalized???) was ever sure in the idiotic sense that Calvinists want to pretend except to those who love God and respond to Him in faith. No, not even the nation of Israel was guaranteed anything. In Exodus 32 God is set to destroy Israel...
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    Outrageous stupidity from every angle. It's an argument that doesn't follow even from its own premises and it is based on false premises to begin with!
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    Truth is not contradictory and your doctrine is so contradictory it's laughable. Therefore, your doctrine is not the truth. Therefore, by your own testimony, you are not saved!
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    All Things come with Christ !

    How could he answer it? It is, for them, just one more word, one more concept, that has no meaning when applied to God.
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Bob was simply the greatest bible teacher of our generation.
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Saying it doesn't make it so. You established no such thing. Not even close. You're the only person I've ever heard of who even believes such a thing. No, not in the church - lower case 'c'. I do not worship the church nor am I identified by it. No, there is no Jew or Gentile in regards to...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    So all of that was almost entirely unresponsive to the point. It seems you look for opportunity to focus on semantics and run off onto rabbit trails so as to avoid the issue at hand. The point is, that the New Covenant has nothing to do with you or any other believer today. It cannot even be...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Brilliant brilliant post, JR! Do you suppose that the concept of God PLEADING through us just flew right over b57's head or do you think he got the point and simply ignored it? I mean you even put it in bold AND underlined it, not to mention how you highlighted the word "WORLD" and yet, he just...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    In this post, b57 demonstrates his proclivity toward lying. He hasn't done this in some time and so I had hoped he had repented of such practices but he's fallen off the wagon with this post when he suggests that the only logical alternative to Limited Atonement is Universalism. He knew that...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Translation: "Ignore everything the bible says about who God is, what sort of person He is and anything else that might pertain to the topic at hand a look only at the single verse that I wish to use as a proof text for one of my pet doctrines that cannot be established in any other way."...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Proof texting is fun! The same sort of techniques are used by every "Christian" cult leader known to history. I remember back in the 90s, there was a TV show put on by a lunatic murderer who called himself "Yahweh Ben Yahweh". The entire show was one example after another of exactly the sort...
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