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Calvin is a confusing, contradictory mess when it comes to free will. He taught that Adam and Eve had free will before the fall. He taught that Adam could have chosen not to sin and then he sort of glazes over the issues that implies about predestination. He also teaches that after the fall that...

Brilliant point! But why stop with the written word? Every foul cuss word that has ever been uttered, the Calvinist believes was so uttered by divine decree and could not have said differently. The Calvinist's predestination doctrine does not merely include all the mindless movement of atoms...

Additionally, it ignores what came before A! This universe is God's creation, we just live in it and are a part of it. As such, we are His procession and He can do with us as He sees fit. God, being holy, righteous and just, requires the same of us but we have rebelled against Him, the very...

If this is actually the sort of reasoning that persuades you, then your mind is broken. Does the man who's fallen over board save himself by clinging to the life preserver that the ship's captain tossed out to him? Do the children who followed the fireman out of their burning house not have...

I've made it through the first hour of the video and, like you said, his argument is, in effect, if Calvinism is true then God is unjust. He's right as rain on that specific point. No doubt about it. So, Poly, have you ever read or listened too Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged"? If you haven't then...

I'm 11 minutes in and find out that James White is a member of a Reformed Baptist church. I somehow have the feeling that he's going to lose this debate.

So, what if I don't have three hours to watch the video? Can you give us the punch line or maybe the time in the video where James White's idea of God is presented? As for agreeing with an atheist, that's the same way I felt about reading Ayn Rand.

That is irrelevant. The point is you've never done anything but agree with every syllable of it that you have read. Plus, you've likely read much more of it than you think. 99.44% of what Calvinists teach comes practically verbatim right out of that book and you WOULD NOT have ever heard of...

Calvinists, most of them anyway, seem to be somewhat schizophrenic when it comes to this double predestination issue. Most of them will say that they do NOT accept the idea that God has predestined some people to Heaven and some people to Hell but when presented with the quotes that I posted in...

“We hold that God is the disposer and ruler of all things, –that from the remotest eternity, according to his own wisdom, He decreed what he was to do, and now by his power executes what he decreed. Hence we maintain, that by His providence, not heaven and earth and inanimate creatures only, but...

You're missing (ignoring) the point. The point is that you're reading your doctrine into the text. It simply doesn't teach what you're implying. People are without hope until they hear the gospel but that isn't an observation about their ability to choose. The bible teaches, and our own lives...

What would make you say something like that? Have I ever given you any reason to think any such thing? You're not only a heretic and fool, you're an asshole. Don't ever address me again. You will never come off my ignore list so long as I remain a member of this website. Good riddance, Mr...

You aren't even trying. It makes no difference to you what the bible actually says. You'll find a way to force it to agree with your doctrine. Why even bother showing up on a debate forum? Who on Earth could ever be convinced by this sort of literal stupidity? I'm done wasting my time with...

Not while in the flesh, no! Otherwise, grace is not needed and the cross was unnecessary! That, in fact, that is a major lesson God was teaching mankind during the dispensation of law. Seeking to be righteous in the flesh is legalism for the law has to do with the flesh. Just as circumcision...

Of course it is. That's stupidity. This was yet another INTENTIONAL lie! You absolutely knew that was NOT my "POV" when you wrote that sentence! Do you understand what a lie is? Is lying not a sin in your "POV"? They absolutely can be, just not in the way you mean it. So long as their flesh...

YOU DIDN'T CITE ANY SCRIPTURE! You simply made the bald claim that your beliefs are Paul's beliefs as though your making the claim is equivalent to making an argument! But, of course, YOU KNEW THAT WHEN YOU TYPED THAT!!!!! Is there no end to you arrogance and lies? Saying it doesn't make it...

This sentence is proof that you aren't even trying to have an honest discussion. That is a form of lying, Hoping. Seriously! No one has even implied that being obedient to God could even possibly be wrong and yet, you, the man who NEVER SINS AT ALL, shows up here with little gem of stupidity...

Saying it doesn't make it so. I've been demonstrating to you otherwise and you literally have nothing AT ALL but a claim to the contrary. I literally do not understand how anyone could be willing to live with that. Only because its a major part of the plot line in the book that God wrote! No...

Once again, not a thimble full of substance in response to a post that took two hours to write. If you aren't interested in even challenging yourself to substantively defend your own beliefs, never mind entertaining the notion that you might learn something you didn't already know, then what is...

Judge Rightly is right, to do this justice would require a book length treatise but, in a sentence, I'd say it boils down to the fact that Christ bore the consequences of sin so that we don't have to. It is the nature and extent of those consequences that requires a book length treatise because...