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  1. Derf

    On the omniscience of God

    Knowledge might not DO anything, but for a causative event to be known, the causative agent must be in existence, or the causative agent is not really causing anything. So, you like vanilla, and God knew you would like vanilla from the foundation of the earth. Did you "decide" to like vanilla...
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    On the omniscience of God

    I read the Soteriology 101 article, and I have a problem or two with it. First, Flowers (whom I enjoy listening to, by the way) says, correctly, that just because God knows something will happen doesn't mean that He causes it to happen. I agree. But what it does mean is that SOMEONE causes it to...
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    On the omniscience of God

    To focus in better, I'm just going to answer this: The plain reading of the text is: "Adam, where are you?" As a question, it gives no doctrinal clarity as to whether God knew or did not know Adam's whereabouts, so you are correct that it doesn't conflict with any aspect of your doctrine. But...
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    Time doesn't exist.

    I suppose you mean "thief", where He comes, takes, and leaves. But if He wasn't there, then was, then wasn't. The absence alone is not enough to cause the melting/atomic explosion, since He wasn't there before He was, even if He won't be there after He was. These may be two different states, but...
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    Time doesn't exist.

    Would it? I don't know. Or would it just run down and die of "heat death"? The description sounds like God is actually going to step away from His creation at some point in the future, and when He does, everything will fly apart like an atomic bomb went off. This is described here: [2Pe 3:10...
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    On the omniscience of God

    I'm a bit disappointed that you say changing the future of a relationship changes the past.
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    Time doesn't exist.

    So "in Him", according to that, is figurative, not literal. It means "by His power" or some such. Or are you saying that God has no power to create or sustain anything that isn't actually inside Himself? Sounds like a limitation. @moonbeam made that case, but I can't see that he was able to...
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    The biggest evidence of the Flood? The world ocean.

    Maybe you should consider what I meant, since I was the one who used the term. Isn't that part of communicating? Highlight: pick out and emphasize. "the issues highlighted by the report" synonyms: call attention to, focus attention on, focus on, spotlight, foreground, underline, underscore...
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    The biggest evidence of the Flood? The world ocean.

    You quoted a portion of their article. That's a way of highlighting a particular part. You talked about their "2 assumptions and 1 observation", and then narrowed your focus to the 1 observation. That's a way of highlighting a particular part. You claimed that their "observation" was really just...
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    The biggest evidence of the Flood? The world ocean.

    Here's what you wrote before, including the part of the article you wanted to highlight. It doesn't say anything about billions of years old. They defined what they meant by "biological succession", which was referring to a consistent ordering of fossils in the rocks from bottom to top. Dr...
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    A little comedy break....

    Modern jousting.
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    The biggest evidence of the Flood? The world ocean.

    From ICR's Dr. Tim Cleary: The geologic column has been under the scrutiny of numerous creationists for many decades. Critics have claimed the column is intimately tied to the evolutionary worldview and deep time, and cannot be trusted or used by creation scientists. Other creation scientists...
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    The biggest evidence of the Flood? The world ocean.

    It's claiming that they "observe" a succession of fossils. Such a claim might be false, but if they actually are observing it, then we will need to deal with it. Succession, of course, doesn't mean that they lived so many years apart, but only that they died in that succession, which a number of...
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    The biggest evidence of the Flood? The world ocean.

    I'm not sure that's exactly true. The "observation" is that "different kinds of fossils occur in different layers and that the order of the various kinds of fossils from bottom to top is always the same." Unfortunately, they don't always (never) have all the various kinds of fossils from bottom...
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    On the omniscience of God

    But never free just to take passages to mean what we want them to say. That's my problem with using that passage in that way...it presumes, likely incorrectly, that God doesn't know the answer to His own question, yet any good attorney will tell you never to ask a question (in court) that you...
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    On the omniscience of God

    Right! God can't be both wrong in prophecy and also give it contingently. Contingent prophecy--intended to help someone repent and avoid the punishment in many cases--cannot be wrong, because both outcomes are possible...in Open Theism, anyway. Not so in EDF, because God is giving an outcome He...
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    Time doesn't exist.

    What I meant, though I admit to poor haste in my post (post haste?), is that if everything is "in Him" like panentheism, then Christians are no more in Him than anyone else, and thus unlikely to benefit from such a phrase. I would say "figuratively." I don't see how we are encapsulated by...
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    Time doesn't exist.

    Your closing...is it a reiteration of the context, or merely a closing? If the former, it would seem to be meaningless in Christian circles, from your position as I read it in your post.
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    Our Moral God

    Maybe this is the one:
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    Our Moral God

    I listened to a Ravi Zacharias talk at BYU that was quite good. He wasn't open theist. I applaud any attempts to reach Mormons, and Paul gave us examples of finding common ground.
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