I Lived Through Collapse. America Is Already There.
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Here's how they reported the story from above locally:
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You moved the goalposts. This is about citizen vs. non-citizen and that's how I'll reply.
Some of the most extensive research comes from Stanford University. Economist Ran Abramitzky found that since the 1960s, immigrants are 60% less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born people.
There is also state level research, that shows similar results: researchers at the CATO Institute, a libertarian think tank, looked into Texas in 2019. They found that undocumented immigrants were 37.1% less likely to be convicted of a crime.
Beyond incarceration rates, research also shows that there is no correlation between undocumented people and a rise in crime. Recent investigations by The New York Times and The Marshall Project found that between 2007 and 2016, there was no link between undocumented immigrants and a rise in violent or property crime in those communities.
An NIJ-funded study examining data from the Texas Department of Public Safety estimated
the rate at which undocumented immigrants are arrested for committing crimes. The study
found that undocumented immigrants are arrested at less than half the rate of native-born
U.S. citizens for violent and drug crimes and a quarter the rate of native-born citizens for
property crimes.[1]
During this time, undocumented immigrants had the lowest offending rates overall for both
total felony crime (see exhibit 1) and violent felony crime (see exhibit 2) compared to other
groups. U.S.-born citizens had the highest offending rates overall for most crime types, with
documented immigrants generally falling between the other two groups.
Please attempt to refute the above without using random X handles.
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annabenedetti
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After more than a year for him and more than two years for me, and more than that for almost everyone else. You know this.
I know that's what you believe. Unfortunately what you believe isn't true.
No it doesn't. A little fact-checking on your part would show you something different.
Like the white American citizen who just killed and wounded schoolchildren as young as 6 years old in a church in Minneapolis today.
The idea that as debaters continue to add more points or evidence to support a claim, the effectiveness of each attempt may decrease to the point that additional points or evidence diminishes and can even take away from the original claim.
As I've quoted before:
"A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point.
We have all experienced the futility of trying to change a strong conviction, especially if the convinced person has some investment in his belief. We are familiar with the variety of ingenious defenses with which people protect their convictions, managing to keep them unscathed through the most devastating attacks.
But man’s resourcefulness goes beyond simply protecting a belief. Suppose an individual believes something with his whole heart; suppose further that he has a commitment to this belief, that he has taken irrevocable actions because of it; finally, suppose that he is presented with evidence, unequivocal and undeniable evidence, that his belief is wrong: what will happen? The individual will frequently emerge, not only unshaken, but even more convinced of the truth of his beliefs than ever before. Indeed, he may even show a new fervor about convincing and converting other people to his view."
― Leon Festinger, When Prophecy Fails: A Social & Psychological Study of a Modern Group that Predicted the Destruction of the World
I want our nation to be as Constitutionally free as possible. That means adhering to the Establishment Clause.
There was a reason the Catholic Church in America began their own parochial school system, because Protestant Christianity and anti-Catholic bias was being forced on Catholic children in the public school systems of the mid 1800's.
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Thank you for your rational voice, even if countering disinformation here seems like spitting in the wind.
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And a big thank you to the citizens on two different grand juries who refused to indict on felony charges against two individuals - one individual for throwing a sandwich at a CBP agent and one individual for (allegedly) causing a tiny scratch on the back of the hand of an FBI agent. Felony charges. There now really are prosecutors who can't jump the low bar of a grand jury indictment, who can't indict a ham sandwich - and they are Pam Bondi and Jeanine Pirro.
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And then there's wormbrain RFK Jr. *diagnosing mitochondria at the airport* merely through the power of his crazy eyes.
Totally awesome how he's the best Health Secretary this entire country has to offer!
America's top health official has discovered a revolutionary diagnostic technique called "looking at kids in airports."
As reported in The Independent, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — whose medical credentials include having "about 70 of cousins" – announced he can spot "mitochondrial challenges" or "inflammation" in passing children.
"I'm looking at kids while I walk through the airports today, as I walk down the street, and I see these kids that are just overburdened with mitochondrial challenges, inflammation, you can tell it from their faces, from their body movement, and from their lack of social connection," he told Texas Governor Greg Abbott yesterday.
During the Texas press conference, Kennedy demonstrated his supernatural ability to misread both medical statistics and basic reality. He claimed 38% of teenagers have diabetes or pre-diabetes, which is only off by 37.65%.
Totally awesome how he's the best Health Secretary this entire country has to offer!
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But, for a refreshingly hilarious breath of fresh air, Gavin Newsom has sent MAGA world into meltdown by...
imitating Trump!
It's like they never noticed how crazy Trump sounded until someone else used the same words and just substituted Gavin for Trump.
imitating Trump!
It's like they never noticed how crazy Trump sounded until someone else used the same words and just substituted Gavin for Trump.
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Conservatives, when you warned of a police state, did you know it would come from the right and not from the left?
1:14 - "If he's legal we'll bring him right back. We just try to get them of the street."
Papers, please.
1:14 - "If he's legal we'll bring him right back. We just try to get them of the street."
Papers, please.
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Bobby Jr. Always good for a laugh. But then you need to choke back that chuckle when you realize the syncophants at the Cabinet meetings are likely worse.
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Meanwhile, the new head of the CDC has no training in medicine.
What could go wrong?
What could go wrong?
But I like his agenda and his helpers. The Dems, in my book, are just liars, cheaters, slanderers, twisters of words, and people who choose harmful nefarious tactics to severely persecute their political opponents. They are the champions of the murder of helpless innocent babies and promote twisted sexual life-styles and choices even for minors.... etc. As a believer in God and a follower of Christ it is hard to watch the perversions they encourage in our society.
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The National Guard, hard at work in DC:
www.independent.co.uk
Trump, on grass:
" I have a lot of golf courses all over the place. I know more about grass than any human being, I think, anywhere in the world. And we're gonna be regrassing all of your parks, all brand new sprinkler systems, the best that you can buy."
National Guard deployed to DC to fight crime has picked up 500 bags of trash
Troops wearing orange high-visibility vests over their camouflage uniforms were seen last week picking up trash in Lafayette Park just outside the White House
Trump, on grass:
" I have a lot of golf courses all over the place. I know more about grass than any human being, I think, anywhere in the world. And we're gonna be regrassing all of your parks, all brand new sprinkler systems, the best that you can buy."
The National Guard, hard at work in DC:
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National Guard deployed to DC to fight crime has picked up 500 bags of trash
Troops wearing orange high-visibility vests over their camouflage uniforms were seen last week picking up trash in Lafayette Park just outside the White House
You're mad that troops were helping to clean up the city?
I'm all for it!
Make our parks great again!
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Is that the mission of the National Guard?
All it does is highlight that they weren't actually needed.
You're all for the president who's demented enough to claim that he knows more about grass than any human being in the world?
Such an embarrassment.
Now on to the particulars of our parks. His administration, via DOGE, decimated the parks work force.
Now they should be lauded for pretending to fix what they broke?
Another ludicrous, Alice in Wonderland twisting of truth and reality by Trump.
National Park Service Cuts Push Fire Island National Seashore Into Uncharted Waters » Fire Island News & Great South Bay News
DOGE has targeted the National Park Service (NPS) with unprecedented funding disruptions and staffing reductions. These abrupt cuts have sown chaos across the National Park System, and Fire Island National Seashore (FINS) has not emerged unscathed.
www.fireislandnews.com
Shuttered Visitor Centers, Closed Campgrounds, Slower Emergency Response: Staffing Crisis Hits National Parks Nationwide
“Losing a quarter of the Park Service’s permanent workforce has made it nearly impossible for some parks to operate safely or effectively. And sadly, this is just the beginning." - Theresa Pierno, NPCA's President and CEO
www.npca.org
Our National Parks in Crisis: Park Staff Worked for Weeks Without Pay as NPS Faces Staffing and Budget Cuts | ANPR
The following news roundup calls attention to threats to the National Park Service as the busiest season of the year for parks continues.
US national parks staff in ‘survival mode’ to keep parks open amid Trump cuts
Park bosses say they’re running visitor centers and even cleaning bathrooms as remaining staff try to keep sites open
www.theguardian.com
You clearly dont seem to understand the hold Dear Leader has on his cult members. He knows everything, remember? He can and will do everything he wants---like any spoiled rich 10 year old---Donald from Queens! The bestest at everything, ever!!Is that the mission of the National Guard?
All it does is highlight that they weren't actually needed.
You're all for the president who's demented enough to claim that he knows more about grass than any human being in the world?
Such an embarrassment.
Now on to the particulars of our parks. His administration, via DOGE, decimated the parks work force.
Now they should be lauded for pretending to fix what they broke?
Another ludicrous, Alice in Wonderland twisting of truth and reality by Trump.
National Park Service Cuts Push Fire Island National Seashore Into Uncharted Waters » Fire Island News & Great South Bay News
DOGE has targeted the National Park Service (NPS) with unprecedented funding disruptions and staffing reductions. These abrupt cuts have sown chaos across the National Park System, and Fire Island National Seashore (FINS) has not emerged unscathed.
Shuttered Visitor Centers, Closed Campgrounds, Slower Emergency Response: Staffing Crisis Hits National Parks Nationwide
“Losing a quarter of the Park Service’s permanent workforce has made it nearly impossible for some parks to operate safely or effectively. And sadly, this is just the beginning." - Theresa Pierno, NPCA's President and CEO
Our National Parks in Crisis: Park Staff Worked for Weeks Without Pay as NPS Faces Staffing and Budget Cuts | ANPR
The following news roundup calls attention to threats to the National Park Service as the busiest season of the year for parks continues.www.anpr.org
US national parks staff in ‘survival mode’ to keep parks open amid Trump cuts
Park bosses say they’re running visitor centers and even cleaning bathrooms as remaining staff try to keep sites open
Not sure if you're aware of this, but cleaning is part of any branch of the military's soldier's duty as a soldier.
I GUARANTEE YOU that they're glad to not be cleaning the latrine or bunks for the hundredth time, instead being out and cleaning up the city.
You seem to have missed the part where they were cleaning up the city.
Meaning it's dirty.
Meaning whoever was running things wasn't keeping it clean.
It's now clean, thanks to the soldiers' efforts.
And you think they weren't needed?
Now you're just being dishonest.
That's not at all what I said.
Check your biases, Anna, they're becoming obvious.
I said "make our parks great again." If that means a president who owns and makes a profit off of at least one golf course (which facilities generally have very nice grass), makes such an offer, I'd say he's at least qualified enough to come to the table to propose a solution or two, regardless of what you personally think of him.
The real embarrassment here is your obvious hatred for a man who has done nothing but try to turn the country around away from the cliff it's about to head off of, and been nothing but vilified for his efforts by the left.
Now on to the particulars of our parks. His administration, via DOGE, decimated the parks work force.
Now they should be lauded for pretending to fix what they broke?
Another ludicrous, Alice in Wonderland twisting of truth and reality by Trump.
National Park Service Cuts Push Fire Island National Seashore Into Uncharted Waters » Fire Island News & Great South Bay News
DOGE has targeted the National Park Service (NPS) with unprecedented funding disruptions and staffing reductions. These abrupt cuts have sown chaos across the National Park System, and Fire Island National Seashore (FINS) has not emerged unscathed.
Shuttered Visitor Centers, Closed Campgrounds, Slower Emergency Response: Staffing Crisis Hits National Parks Nationwide
“Losing a quarter of the Park Service’s permanent workforce has made it nearly impossible for some parks to operate safely or effectively. And sadly, this is just the beginning." - Theresa Pierno, NPCA's President and CEO
Our National Parks in Crisis: Park Staff Worked for Weeks Without Pay as NPS Faces Staffing and Budget Cuts | ANPR
The following news roundup calls attention to threats to the National Park Service as the busiest season of the year for parks continues.
US national parks staff in ‘survival mode’ to keep parks open amid Trump cuts
Park bosses say they’re running visitor centers and even cleaning bathrooms as remaining staff try to keep sites open
Have you considered the possibility that the reason he made cuts was because it was bloat, and not actually serving any purpose?
Is that the mission of the National Guard?
All it does is highlight that they weren't actually needed.
You're all for the president who's demented enough to claim that he knows more about grass than any human being in the world?
Such an embarrassment.
Now on to the particulars of our parks. His administration, via DOGE, decimated the parks work force.
Now they should be lauded for pretending to fix what they broke?
Another ludicrous, Alice in Wonderland twisting of truth and reality by Trump.
National Park Service Cuts Push Fire Island National Seashore Into Uncharted Waters » Fire Island News & Great South Bay News
DOGE has targeted the National Park Service (NPS) with unprecedented funding disruptions and staffing reductions. These abrupt cuts have sown chaos across the National Park System, and Fire Island National Seashore (FINS) has not emerged unscathed.
Shuttered Visitor Centers, Closed Campgrounds, Slower Emergency Response: Staffing Crisis Hits National Parks Nationwide
“Losing a quarter of the Park Service’s permanent workforce has made it nearly impossible for some parks to operate safely or effectively. And sadly, this is just the beginning." - Theresa Pierno, NPCA's President and CEO
Our National Parks in Crisis: Park Staff Worked for Weeks Without Pay as NPS Faces Staffing and Budget Cuts | ANPR
The following news roundup calls attention to threats to the National Park Service as the busiest season of the year for parks continues.
US national parks staff in ‘survival mode’ to keep parks open amid Trump cuts
Park bosses say they’re running visitor centers and even cleaning bathrooms as remaining staff try to keep sites open
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You GUARANTEE me?
Have you ever served in the National Guard?
Here's someone who has:
"This is a gross misuse of such a critical national resource,” retired Maj. Gen. of the National Guard Randy Manner said. “I think it’s insulting to every man and woman in uniform."
He told WTOP that National Guard personnel are trained in combat, not in urban policing or simply walking up and down the street.
"Our men and women want to defend our country overseas, and they also want to save lives in the United States and in their community, neither of which are happening… in this photo opportunity the administration has generated," Manner said.
Lots of cities are dirty. No one ever called in the National Guard to do that, it's a job (outside natural disasters) that is left to the cities and states. When did conservatives go Big Government? (Hint: under Trump)
For cleaning up the city? No. As stated above, that's a city and state job.
No I'm not, JR.
You literally said "I'm all for it!"
Maybe you could clarify then, that you're all for what Trump's doing, but not for all the gobbledygook that comes out his mouth?
Because he has nice golf courses, you're willing to set aside his delusions of grandeur so DC will have less trash because it was picked up by the National Guard who called them to DC because DC has a lower crime rate than say, Memphis, TN? Why isn't the National Guard in Memphis?
The country is being damaged by those who don't or won't see Trump for what he is, because of what they want from him.
It obviously wasn't bloat, or Elon would've found the 2 Trillion he never found. These agencies were intentionally decimated. Why? So Trump could say "I alone can fix this?" (This thing that he broke... )
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