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The silence is deafening in here because nobody comes here anymore.

You and Arty were here, though.

I sure hope you don’t think it’s because no one has an effective counter to anything you posted. It’s more likely no one cares or even knows what you said in the first place.

OR, maybe, no one has an answer, because the only answer is to concede that I'm right.

For myself, as I told you, I’m traveling. Maybe when I get home I’ll pull up crimes committed by American citizens to remind you where the bulk of the crime comes from in the United States.

Yes, it comes mostly from the black community.

Not that I think it’s going to matter, so at some point the law of diminishing returns will kick in again.

Meaning?

You want a Christian monarchy. You may end up with a Christian dictatorship and I’m not at all sure that you care about the difference.

You're right. I want our nation to be as Christian as possible, because it has the greatest chance of protecting life, and of bringing people to Christ, the Source of Life.
 

annabenedetti

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You moved the goalposts. This is about citizen vs. non-citizen and that's how I'll reply.

Some of the most extensive research comes from Stanford University. Economist Ran Abramitzky found that since the 1960s, immigrants are 60% less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born people.​
There is also state level research, that shows similar results: researchers at the CATO Institute, a libertarian think tank, looked into Texas in 2019. They found that undocumented immigrants were 37.1% less likely to be convicted of a crime.​
Beyond incarceration rates, research also shows that there is no correlation between undocumented people and a rise in crime. Recent investigations by The New York Times and The Marshall Project found that between 2007 and 2016, there was no link between undocumented immigrants and a rise in violent or property crime in those communities.





An NIJ-funded study examining data from the Texas Department of Public Safety estimated​
the rate at which undocumented immigrants are arrested for committing crimes. The study​
found that undocumented immigrants are arrested at less than half the rate of native-born​
U.S. citizens for violent and drug crimes and a quarter the rate of native-born citizens for​
property crimes.[1]​
During this time, undocumented immigrants had the lowest offending rates overall for both​
total felony crime (see exhibit 1) and violent felony crime (see exhibit 2) compared to other​
groups. U.S.-born citizens had the highest offending rates overall for most crime types, with​
documented immigrants generally falling between the other two groups.​


Please attempt to refute the above without using random X handles.
 
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annabenedetti

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You and Arty were here, though.

After more than a year for him and more than two years for me, and more than that for almost everyone else. You know this.

OR, maybe, no one has an answer, because the only answer is to concede that I'm right.

I know that's what you believe. Unfortunately what you believe isn't true.

Yes, it comes mostly from the black community.

No it doesn't. A little fact-checking on your part would show you something different.

Like the white American citizen who just killed and wounded schoolchildren as young as 6 years old in a church in Minneapolis today.


The idea that as debaters continue to add more points or evidence to support a claim, the effectiveness of each attempt may decrease to the point that additional points or evidence diminishes and can even take away from the original claim.

As I've quoted before:

"A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point.​
We have all experienced the futility of trying to change a strong conviction, especially if the convinced person has some investment in his belief. We are familiar with the variety of ingenious defenses with which people protect their convictions, managing to keep them unscathed through the most devastating attacks.​
But man’s resourcefulness goes beyond simply protecting a belief. Suppose an individual believes something with his whole heart; suppose further that he has a commitment to this belief, that he has taken irrevocable actions because of it; finally, suppose that he is presented with evidence, unequivocal and undeniable evidence, that his belief is wrong: what will happen? The individual will frequently emerge, not only unshaken, but even more convinced of the truth of his beliefs than ever before. Indeed, he may even show a new fervor about convincing and converting other people to his view."​


You're right. I want our nation to be as Christian as possible, because it has the greatest chance of protecting life, and of bringing people to Christ, the Source of Life.

I want our nation to be as Constitutionally free as possible. That means adhering to the Establishment Clause.

There was a reason the Catholic Church in America began their own parochial school system, because Protestant Christianity and anti-Catholic bias was being forced on Catholic children in the public school systems of the mid 1800's.
 
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