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Clete

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as a professional statistician and data analyst for 10 years for a Fortune 500 company, I can assure you that you are incorrect.
Saying it doesn't make it so.

Prove it. I'm pretty well convinced that you just told a bald faced lie but am willing to see you prove otherwise.

Take the data represented in those charts and do something with it that demonstrates a point that radically departs of what those charts display. Show me a chart that shows the representative infection rates of those who received the vaccines vs those who received a placebo. Go ahead! I can't wait to see how you find a way to display a chart that contradicts the one's I presented.

You won't even try.

Clete
 

marke

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Do you ever actually respond to what people say to you? The length of time that these new vaccines last has NOTHING to do with what I said nor does it have anything to do whether they have been safe and effective.
The US government claims the covid vaccines have been tested and have been proven effective. They lied. The vaccines have now been proven to be ineffective over time, needing additional booster shots indefinitely, and still unable to protect people from getting covid. The mRNA is not a vaccine. It is a gene-altering experimental drug developed through extensive use of fetal tissues from dead aborted babies.
 

way 2 go

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The US government claims the covid vaccines have been tested and have been proven effective. They lied. The vaccines have now been proven to be ineffective over time, needing additional booster shots indefinitely, and still unable to protect people from getting covid. The mRNA is not a vaccine. It is a gene-altering experimental drug developed through extensive use of fetal tissues from dead aborted babies.
seen a french vax pass spaces for 8 shots , haven't verified

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can't verify , just cospiracy theroy .... for now

I dont know anybody lining up for the third shot ,
 
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way 2 go

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Yeah go figure!

The word "figure" there means "think"! Do you ever actually think through a word of what you say?

It isn't the vaccinated people who are driving this latest rise in cases, it's the unvaccinated. GO FIGURE!


VaccineEfficacy at preventing disease:
ancestral & Alpha
Efficacy at preventing infection:
ancestral & Alpha
Efficacy at preventing disease:
Beta, Gamma, Delta
Efficacy at preventing infection:
Beta, Gamma, Delta
Pfizer/BioNTech92%86%90%78%
Moderna94%89%93%80%
AstraZeneca85%52%83%51%
Johnson & Johnson (Janssen)86%72%85%56%

it's the lies that hurt , no prevention here.

Screenshot_2021-08-20 Israel COVID 978,212 Cases and 6,759 Deaths - Worldometer.png
 

expos4ever

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it's the lies that hurt , no prevention here.

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Not this again.

It is difficult to believe that people here are really so dumb as to believe that this kind of chart, that you toss about with abandon, demonstrates anything.

Here is a question you will not be able to answer: how, precisely, does this chart demonstrate that the vaccines are not working in preventing infection?

I will point out something that anyone above the age of 13 will know - rising infection rates among the vaccinated could be caused by a dramatic increase in the amount of virus circulating among the unvaccinated. Even if the vaccine is, say, 80% effective in preventing infections, if the vaccinated person is exposed to many more infected people, the numbers of infections among the vaccinated will go up even though the vaccine is still 80% effective.

Now then, please offer your argument: how does this chart show that the vaccines are not preventing infections?

And, no, your stock "confession through projection" non sequitir does not count.
 

way 2 go

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Not this again.

It is difficult to believe that people here are really so dumb as to believe that this kind of chart, that you toss about with abandon, demonstrates anything.
it demonstrates cases are going up in a mostly vaxed population

Here is a question you will not be able to answer: how, precisely, does this chart demonstrate that the vaccines are not working in preventing infection?
cases are going up in a mostly vaxed population
I will point out something that anyone above the age of 13 will know - rising infection rates among the vaccinated could be caused by a dramatic increase in the amount of virus circulating among the unvaccinated. Even if the vaccine is, say, 80% effective in preventing infections, if the vaccinated person is exposed to many more infected people, the numbers of infections among the vaccinated will go up even though the vaccine is still 80% effective.
the vaxed with the wuflu are passing the wuflu to the vaxed

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Now then, please offer your argument: how does this chart show that the vaccines are not preventing infections?

And, no, your stock "confession through projection" non sequitir does not count.
cases are going up in a mostly vaxed population
 

expos4ever

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it demonstrates cases are going up in a mostly vaxed population


cases are going up in a mostly vaxed population

the vaxed with the wuflu are passing the wuflu to the vaxed

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cases are going up in a mostly vaxed population
How does showing that cases are going up in a vaxxed population - and Israel is only about 60% fully vaxxed - prove that the vaccines are not effective?

Remember: rising infection rates among the vaccinated could be caused by a dramatic increase in the amount of virus circulating among the unvaccinated. Even if the vaccine is, say, 80% effective in preventing infections, if the vaccinated person is exposed to many more infected people, the numbers of infections among the vaccinated will go up even though the vaccine is still 80% effective.

And how many of the vaxxed are passing the infection onto the vaxxed? Obviously, this number is not zero. But what is it? If it is a very small number, it does not support your position. And even if it is a large number, the vaxxed are very unlikely to get seriously ill. So what is your basic point with this particular claim.

Let us be clear: those who encourage not taking the vaccine have blood on their hands - their advocacy is costing lives.
 

expos4ever

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The US government claims the covid vaccines have been tested and have been proven effective. They lied. The vaccines have now been proven to be ineffective over time, needing additional booster shots indefinitely, and still unable to protect people from getting covid.
Liar.

The US government never represented either that (a) booster shots would not be needed; or (b) that the vaccines are 100% effective.
 

expos4ever

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What proves the vaccine is dangerous is the bad effects it keeps having on people.
Profoundly misleading, of course. As you often do, you illicitly frame the entire issue in a deeply misleading way. Here, you remain entirely silent on the matter of the risks associated with not taking the vaccine.
 

expos4ever

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Leftist fascists: 'If you refuse to take the government-mandated shot then we will mark you as guilty of killing others and we will crush you for your murderous opinions and actions.'
How, exactly, do you think we should treat anti-vaxxers - people who are, in effect, accessories to murder?
 

way 2 go

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How does showing that cases are going up in a vaxxed population - and Israel is only about 60% fully vaxxed - prove that the vaccines are not effective?
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cases are going up in a vaxxed population
Remember: rising infection rates among the vaccinated could be caused by a dramatic increase in the amount of virus circulating among the unvaccinated. Even if the vaccine is, say, 80% effective in preventing infections, if the vaccinated person is exposed to many more infected people, the numbers of infections among the vaccinated will go up even though the vaccine is still 80% effective.
CAPTUR~1.jpg
And how many of the vaxxed are passing the infection onto the vaxxed? Obviously, this number is not zero. But what is it? If it is a very small number, it does not support your position. And even if it is a large number, the vaxxed are very unlikely to get seriously ill. So what is your basic point with this particular claim.
did you not look at the chart 👀

the vax is not preventing infection

Let us be clear: those who encourage not taking the vaccine have blood on their hands - their advocacy is costing lives.

link
The European Union database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, and they are now reporting 20,595 fatalities, and 1,960,607 injuries, following COVID-19 injections. (49.4 % serious 968,870 )
 
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