No, it's not.
No, you haven't. You've deluded yourself into thinking that.
Your mind is so open that your brain has fallen out.
Truth is clear for all to see.
Jesus is God !
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No, it's not.
No, you haven't. You've deluded yourself into thinking that.
Your mind is so open that your brain has fallen out.
Truth is clear for all to see.
beloved57
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Thats False, nowhere in scripture is the Logos, the Word of God is Created, in fact thats Blasphemy !
keypurr
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When you find out who the logos is I will be glad to show you the verses. Hint: it is not Jesus.
keypurr
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JR you have never disproved what I share.
Lon
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Go ahead: What is "VERY" clear, Keypurr? Convince me.
:doh: Did you read Philippians 2? Didn't it SAY Jesus, equal with God, 'emptied?' Didn't it?
It doesn't say that, which means you 'made that part up.' It literally has to say it in scripture or you are going to just be special pleading "Keypurr assumptions."
No! If your grammar stinks, so does your theology. You CANNOT osmosis your theology. You either know grammar rules AND abide by them or you get a LOT of things wrong.
"Doctrines," I somewhat agree BUT what "I" did was looked at the bible to discover which ones would stand or fall upon the scriptures, not my false ideas (as well). I'd hate to see what church would come behind "Lon" as "Lonnites." I just want people to read and wrestle with scriptures alongside me. If you never become Triune, I pray you'll at least listen and be molded by scriptures. I'm convinced God will keep His own and guide them into 'all truth.' 1 Corinthians 13's 'Glass darkely' means we are going to have to look hard at our doctrines, humbly until 1 John 3:2
Well, at least on what every protestant agrees on. We need to take a much more careful look when I actually agree with a particular doctrine. For the most part, the RC got more right than wrong AND a mark to help you grasp the difference is to look at what both the Coptic and Greek Orthodox churches believe. Did you realize they were separate from the RC? Did you realize they agree on most doctrine?
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keypurr
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It does not say JESUS is the creator, Jesus is a man born to Mary.
Jesus is a creation and so is the son of Col 1:15.
All images are creations.
The true Son of God is a spirit because he/it is the exact image of the Father. It is a created FORM of God for it was given he fullness of the Father, all things were created through this son.
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After all of this time, I must assume that you love to be wrong.
Jesus was with His Father LONG before He took on human flesh.
No, He is NOT... He is the CREATOR OF ALL THINGS, as Col 1 states so clearly.
"Express image" is an analogy and is not to be taken as a "photo".
The "exact image" means that Jesus is God.
You are so wrong. I pity you at the judgement.
keypurr
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Nope, you simply do not see what I share. The son at the creation is not Jesus, that son is a spirit.
Consider that God was alone and created a clone of himself. That clone was given the power of God yet it is a creation. God SENT this son to dwell in the body he prepared for it. Jesus was anointed with this son son and it spoke through Jesus. We love the same God and Son but in a different way. I do not think Jesus pre existed because of Acts 10:38 tells us Jesus got his POWER when he was anointed. This is when God announced that this was his son,
keypurr
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Your disreguarding scripture, the EXPRESS IMAGE of GOD. Every translation agrees that this means exact copy of God.
ALL IMAGES are CREATIONS. Christ is thr first of all CREATIONS for all things were made through IT.
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It's a METAPHOR. It is NOT a literal "image" as in your baloney "picture" idea.
God is the CREATOR.... Jesus is God.... Jesus is the CREATOR.
keypurr
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correct
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The CREATOR created ALL THINGS. Jesus is that Creator.
keypurr
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True God created through his Son. But that son was not Jesus. And that son is the first creation, and is a spirit.
keypurr
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Stop trying to change scripture, its not a metaphor. Who needed a body in Heb 10:5?