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link Published 27 November 2020

Scandinavian approaches

“The Swedish approach taught us what to do and what not to do in other Nordic countries,” says Søren Riis Paludan, professor of biomedicine at Aarhus University in Denmark. “Now we don’t have to go into lockdown but know where to be more careful, particularly with the elderly.”

Statistics show that 89% of Sweden’s covid-19 deaths were in people over 69. During the first six months of 2020 over 2000 people died in nursing homes as a result of what Sweden’s Health and Social Care Inspectorate, Ivo, described as “serious failings,” including a lack of protective equipment and inadequate access to doctors. “These fatalities could have been prevented,” Paludan told The BMJ.

In contrast, Norway, with about half the population of Sweden, has had 267 deaths from covid-19, with 90% in people over the age of 70. In similarly sized Denmark, 697 people have died from covid-19, and the country has surprisingly registered the lowest number of deaths in its population for six years, according to Statens Serum Institut, the national infectious diseases agency.
 

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So do you deny what they're saying is true?



Because me posting links from multiple sources is apparently not good enough...



Which is in contradiction to other journals and doctors and medical professionals that say that the masks don't work.

You should start questioning the journals that go along with the political narrative. Don't just take them at their word.



So why did they contradict themselves, Arthur? What new evidence appeared that goes directly against what they said last year about how useless masks are for protecting against an aerosolized virus?



Says the one ignoring everything I'm saying.



That's right, be more obedient to your slave masters.
I'm not "ignoring" everything you're saying at all. It's been addressed all ends up and frankly, if you're going to spout the kind of tripe with your last with "slave masters" then I'm simply not interested. Carry on and do as you will, you will anyway so this is pointless.
 

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I'm not "ignoring" everything you're saying at all.

You say as you ignore literally 77.78% of my last post.

It's been addressed all ends up

Except it hasn't, or I wouldn't be asking the questions.

Arthur, do you deny that there are now about 10,000 children who are dying every month due to the restrictions put in place to attempt to stop the spread of the virus, and do you deny that such restrictions are "'wasting' and 'stunting' millions more"?

Why did the WHO go against what it said in 2019 regarding face masks not working against aerosolized viruses, such as the coronavirus? Was there some new information that came up? If so, what?
 

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From Johns Hopkins University:




And of course there's pushback from those who have an axe to grind:
 

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Oh, and if you're a hospital CEO, someone who most likely knows his stuff, and you don't toe the party line and go along with the narrative, you lose your job.

 

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Wearing a mask, social distancing, limited contact with others, none of it will protect you from getting Covid-19. Not even if you're the governor of Colorado:

 

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You say as you ignore literally 77.78% of my last post.



Except it hasn't, or I wouldn't be asking the questions.

Arthur, do you deny that there are now about 10,000 children who are dying every month due to the restrictions put in place to attempt to stop the spread of the virus, and do you deny that such restrictions are "'wasting' and 'stunting' millions more"?

Why did the WHO go against what it said in 2019 regarding face masks not working against aerosolized viruses, such as the coronavirus? Was there some new information that came up? If so, what?
You're not "asking questions". You're making statements that have been refuted. If you really want to know why WHO changed around then do your own research on the matter. It's not difficult to find.

Cites to those figures and from a reputable source thanks. Do lockdowns have detrimental effects? Of course, they're not good for the economy and they take their toll on people's wellbeing. They're not taken lightly but in the case of a pandemic measures have to be taken which is what we've seen around the world. Meanwhile, I'll choose to be responsible and take safety precautions.
 

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You're not "asking questions".

Don't be dumb, Arthur.

These are questions (that you have not answered):

So when you quote sources that fit your narrative on other topics, it's ok, but when I or other conservatives do it, it's wrong?

. . .

Do you deny the following?:


“It’s been seven months since the first COVID-19 cases were reported, and it is increasingly clear that the repercussions of the pandemic are causing more harm to children than the disease itself,” UNICEF Executive Director Henrietta Fore said. “Household poverty and food insecurity rates have increased.”




“By having schools closed, by having primary healthcare services disrupted, by having nutritional programs dysfunctional, we are also creating harm,” Victor Aguayo, the head of UNICEF’s nutrition program, said.



Do you disagree with the following, and if so, why?

So do you deny what they're saying is true?

. . .

So why did they contradict themselves, Arthur? What new evidence appeared that goes directly against what they said last year about how useless masks are for protecting against an aerosolized virus?

I should have specified:

Why is it necessarily a bad thing?

Arthur, do you deny that there are now about 10,000 children who are dying every month due to the restrictions put in place to attempt to stop the spread of the virus, and do you deny that such restrictions are "'wasting' and 'stunting' millions more"?

Why did the WHO go against what it said in 2019 regarding face masks not working against aerosolized viruses, such as the coronavirus? Was there some new information that came up? If so, what?

Please answer these questions.

You're making statements that have been refuted.

By whom?

Certainly not you, and certainly none of those refutations have been provided on this thread.

If you really want to know why WHO changed around then do your own research on the matter. It's not difficult to find.

This coming from someone who, as far as I can tell, refuses to do his own research on WHY the claims of those who say the masks don't work are saying such things.

I know why they did it.

I'm asking you for your explanation of why. I want your opinion, or your explanation of the facts. So far, you have provided NONE.

Cites to those figures and from a reputable source thanks.

Which figures? The ones where children are dying? the ones where children's growth is being stunted and they are wasting?

Do lockdowns have detrimental effects? Of course, they're not good for the economy and they take their toll on people's wellbeing. They're not taken lightly but in the case of a pandemic measures have to be taken which is what we've seen around the world. Meanwhile, I'll choose to be responsible and take safety precautions.

Tell that to the hypocrites who implemented such measures. One such example:

 

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@Arthur Brain by the way, I've noticed that you are not using the bbcode to separate out what you're replying to.

To do so, click on the menu button in the top right of the text-input box (next to the circular arrow button), then click on the "[ ]" button. That will allow you to separate out what you're replying to, so that there is less confusion when you reply.
 

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You have permission to go back to normal. No more masks, no more distance. Never grumble, never fear, for we are Paul Revere.
 

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Don't be dumb, Arthur.

These are questions (that you have not answered):









Please answer these questions.



By whom?

Certainly not you, and certainly none of those refutations have been provided on this thread.



This coming from someone who, as far as I can tell, refuses to do his own research on WHY the claims of those who say the masks don't work are saying such things.

I know why they did it.

I'm asking you for your explanation of why. I want your opinion, or your explanation of the facts. So far, you have provided NONE.



Which figures? The ones where children are dying? the ones where children's growth is being stunted and they are wasting?



Tell that to the hypocrites who implemented such measures. One such example:

If you "know" why the WHO did it then why are you even asking me the question? I suspect that what you "know" isn't exactly proof of anything but a source(s) that already confirms your resolute refusal to take reasonable safety precautions. If you've got reputable sources to support your claims regarding these thousands of deaths then supply them. Oh, and of course there's hypocrisy where it comes to these measures where government officials and the like have flagrantly violated them. Doesn't work out too well for them either.
 
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