beloved57
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Again you admit that Christs death is of non effect, which is blasphemy and unbelief
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Again you admit that Christs death is of non effect, which is blasphemy and unbelief
It is no effect for Christ rejecters like yourself. If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you, Romans 10:13.
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It is a shame you are trying to deny God the pleasure of finding shining gems for Himself from among the dregs of humanity.
The only way to merit God's Grace (favor) is to please Him.
We can try to please God, but only God can determine whether He is pleased with our feeble efforts, not you.
God was pleased when Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice.
God was pleased when Noah prepared an ark to the saving of his house.
God was pleased when Abraham went out, not knowing where he as going, and sojourned in the land of promise.
God was pleased when Sara conceived and delivered a child when she was past age.
God was pleased when Abraham offered up Isaac.
The Bible tells us what we need to do to try to please God and to try to merit God's Grace (favor).
The Bible also warns us over and over about not doing the things that do not please God.
1 Corinthians 10:5-12 5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. 8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. 9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. 10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. 11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. |
We can choose to do the things that do not please God and ensure our destruction in the lake of fire.
We can damn ourselves through our thoughts and actions.
We can choose to do the things that please God and hope that He is pleased enough to choose us as a gift for Himself.
We cannot save ourselves by doing those things, but we might please God enough for Him to choose to save us.
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beloved57
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You still preach Christs death is of no effect, thats blasphemy ! You are saying that its no effect for sinners !
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Yes, I suppose that those that simply repeat themselves time and again may have some redundancy issues if they are reluctant to take the time to stand still long enough and subject their repetitive opinions to some actual scrutiny by others. Assertions come easy to all of us. But they contain no truth value unless some effort is taken to substantiate the mere claim via honest back-and-forth discussion.
Unfortunately, not a few tend to make assertions, then fade away and let others do the heavy-lifting for them, while they sit on the sidelines weighing in with the occasioned "Amen!" "Good post!" etc. Cheerleaders. Who really do not play the game, but only whip the crowd into frenzy. They serve a purpose, if for nothing else, entertaining the crowd. Of course, cheerleaders are involved in the game, but only those actually playing at the game are committed.
Some just prefer to be the egg in a ham and egg breakfast. One animal is involved, the other, alas, is committed and actually loses his life over the commitment.
Thus, metaphors aside, if that "involved" behavior is one's norm, then repetitiveness is unavoidable. For the person has forgotten their original aim, and merely redoubles their efforts, which is the very definition of the fanatic.
To wit:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...here-Between&p=4548675&viewfull=1#post4548675
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-Anti-Christ&p=4603713&viewfull=1#post4603713
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...to-Get-Saved&p=4620807&viewfull=1#post4620807
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...te-Calvinism&p=4641402&viewfull=1#post4641402
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Jesus-Christ&p=4693171&viewfull=1#post4693171
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ot-universal&p=4705211&viewfull=1#post4705211
http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?118903-unfinished-business&p=4774450&viewfull=1#post4774450
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ed-Religions&p=4812725&viewfull=1#post4812725
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ed-Religions&p=4812725&viewfull=1#post4812725
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ans-fatalism&p=5272240&viewfull=1#post5272240
Q.E.D.
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He keeps track of every thing that I say also.
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It is important that someone points out to you that your habit of cracking wise, mocking, and sarcastic requires a directed response illustrating your double-mindedness. You enjoy playing the arbiter of another's motives, yet seem unwilling to turn your inspection of others inward.
From time to time you need to be called on it in hope that the forum does not degenerate into a child's schoolyard.
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Thank you.
Try making good quotes. Use the spoiler tags [spoiler] [/spoiler] around quotes of more than a paragraph or two, or perhaps just quote a small portion of a post rather than filling the page with redundant content.
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I have started trying to do that, to make more of a "Reader's Digest" version to cut down on replies of replies that take vertical miles.
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"Give me some exegesis, but keep it short. You know, I am old after all, and I have no patience for, er, actual exegesis, preferring instead simplicities withlittle substantiation, thus I get to set the terms required to rehabilitate the claims made against me."
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A nice try, but I am not taking the bait. Fooled me twice, shame on me. There won't be a third time. I prefer to walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, redeeming the time, because the days are evil (Eph. 5:15-16).
Now if you are sincere in rehabilitating your current behaviors, pick your own locus classicus and provide a substantive interpretation demonstrating how that passage defeats Calvinistic doctrine. Perhaps we will go from there.
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