ok doser
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rather, a refusal of the attempts by the socialist/marxist/communist left to justify using the force of the state to take that which should be freely given
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Oh the Irony...
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rather, a refusal of the attempts by the socialist/marxist/communist left to justify using the force of the state to take that which should be freely given
ok doser
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for instance
millions of people die from starvation every year
would it, therefore, be justifiable to take away the salaries of all the UN officials and staff to prevent that?
Arthur Brain , why or why not?
way 2 go
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no God given right to steal
biblicaly speaking you would have to pay restitution for the damage done by the B&E & for the supplies taken
What?
How can you live with yourself when your mind is so twisted and hideous?!
Who besides God provides life to a baby? Are you referring to food and shelter? That too is provided by God so long as we don't forcibly rip a baby from it's mother's womb.
After the baby is born, God continues to provide for the child through his mother's breast. Are you suggesting that because a baby cannot feed itself that a mother has the right to refuse to allow the child to suckle her breast? The child didn't choose to be born or even conceived. The parents made that choice and there are consequences and responsibilities that come along with it, including providing for the needs of their own children.
Of course, the avoidance of consequences of one's actions is what the left is all about, right? The lazy shouldn't go hungry, the incompetent shouldn't be poor, the slut shouldn't have to mother her children, the thief shouldn't be made to pay restitution and the murderer shouldn't be executed.
No!
What the conservative advocates is not selfishness but freedom! The conservative is not apposed to helping the poor, he is apposed to Robin Hood!
Stealing from the rich to give to the poor is a double crime! The thief does his stealing and then the poor receive stolen goods. It is theft that the conservative apposes not charity.
The conservative believes that the man who earned his money is a far better judge of who should be the recipients of his charity than the government is. Just like nearly everything else the government touches, charity is corrupted into something grotesque that has more to do with politicians maintaining their power than it does with helping the poor or downtrodden. Indeed, the politician needs the downtrodden to remain in need of the politician's handouts or else he might pull the lever for something other than the Robin Hood / Santa Claus side of the ticket.
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Excellent post Clete.
I'm always stunned by the idea that somehow it's "selfish" for people to self-determine how to spend their own money.
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The rest of that verse is also very appropriate:
Mat 20:15 KJV Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
Also the words of God:
“You shall not steal.“ . . . You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” - Exodus 20:15,17 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus20:15,17&version=NKJV
Something we see a lot of today, especially due to the "safety nets" we have in place.
way 2 go
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so by that logic a baby does not have the right to life
and ok doser got my point.
just pointed out a consequence of your logic and you blow a gasket , take a pill dude.
yes, food & shelter
"NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO ANYTHING THAT MUST BE PROVIDED TO THEM BY SOMEONE ELSE!!!!" clete
eider
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Jesus didn't own a string of properties, left unoccupied whilst the poor needed shelter.
Jesus owned what he stood up in.
And the he followed the Old Testament poor laws to the letter.
God's Truth
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Jesus makes his home with those who obey.
And, no one gets in His Father's mansion unless they obey.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
cite?
eider
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So you think God lives in a big Mansion?
Do you think God lives in Mammon
Strange.......,
eider
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So you have never read the 507 OT laws (separate from the 106 sacrificial/ceremonial ones)....?
You should know them by heart, surely..... not just the ones you sling at others....... ?
Get reading!
ok doser
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"the old testament poor laws" - your words, you get to explain them
hint- there weren't 507 "poor laws"
This has nothing to do with my logic you idiotic fool!
The child did not choose to be concieved! Poeple are resposible for the consequences of their own actions and if those consequences include bringing a helpless baby into existence then it's on them to take care of it! To starve it to death is murder!
No one is stealing from the parents in order to feed their child! No taxes are collected from the parents so that the child can eat!
If the parents don't feed, clothe and otherwise protect the child then they are guilty of child abuse and if the child dies as a result they are guilty of murder. How is that not perfectly reasonable common freaking sense?
Do you think that neglected children are better taken care of by the government than privately run and funded charity groups? I dare you to prove it. You won't even try, you disgusting perverted fool!
LORD GOD I HATE THESE PEOPLE!!!!
I'm out of here!
Good bye
eider
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You really need to read all of the 507.
Then you would find and maybe remember the poor laws.
So, let's take one of these laws and look at it for a moment.
We'll use this one as the example:
‘When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap the corners of your field when you reap, nor shall you gather any gleaning from your harvest. You shall leave them for the poor and for the stranger: I am the Lord your God.’ ” - Leviticus 23:22 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus23:22&version=NKJV
Question 1, Eider: Was there any punishment for NOT following this law?
Question 2: What was the point of this law?
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What is strange is your reasoning skills.
The Bible says God has a mansion.
Have you read what His throne looks like?