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  • #76
    Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post


    ENFP so early on I was more accommodating. Once I had my core values in place that changed and I learned linguistic judo to carve out a comfortable place for myself, finding that I could use a gentle humor to wear people down and into an acceptance of our differences. I'm largely working my way back into that and out of the more acerbic, though I still have my moments.
    we always go back to our roots

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    • #77
      Originally posted by fzappa13 View Post
      Who's we?
      Who isn't, mostly?
      You aren't what you eat, but you're always what you swallow.

      Pro-Life






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      • #78
        thanks townman, i found that page and got your msg. i have not been on tol for more than a week or so. stalk you later, i mean, talk to you later

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
          Who isn't, mostly?
          Me hopefully ... depending on the company "we" are talking about.
          Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, others just gargle.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by fzappa13 View Post
            Me hopefully ... depending on the company "we" are talking about.
            Okay, let's really look at it:

            You'd said:
            we are forever seeking to put each other in some sort of conceptual box that allows us to avoid the work of actually getting to know someone.
            I responded: We self identify through broad labels often enough (Baptist, Hindu, Atheist, conservative, etc.) without that complaint attaching.

            Most people identify themselves with fairly broad labels. So the we is most people. Christian is fairly broad. Conservative too, by way of example.
            You aren't what you eat, but you're always what you swallow.

            Pro-Life






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            • #81
              there are so many layers within all the labels. for quick reference we tend to categorize and generalize. not me though, just everybody else

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
                Okay, let's really look at it:

                You'd said:
                I responded: We self identify through broad labels often enough (Baptist, Hindu, Atheist, conservative, etc.) without that complaint attaching.

                Most people identify themselves with fairly broad labels. So the we is most people. Christian is fairly broad. Conservative too, by way of example.
                Yes, I know, and I think the reason we do it is intellectual laziness and I think this gets worse as time goes on. As we move from reading books to reading articles to reading posts our attention span as it concerns getting to know others has followed suit I fear and I don't see this as progress.
                Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, others just gargle.

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                • #83
                  In 2002 I was Rational Mastermind (INTJ)
                  In 2007 I was Guardian Inspector (ISTJ)
                  In 2012 I was Rational Architect (INTP)
                  In 2013 I was Rational Architect (INTP)
                  In 2014 I was Rational Architect (INTP)
                  Your results

                  Personality: INTP

                  Variant: Turbulent

                  Role: Analyst

                  51% Introverted
                  55% Intuitive
                  64% Thinking
                  87% Prospecting
                  25% Turbulent
                  Learn to read what is written.

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                  The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                  ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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                  • #84
                    The real benefit to me, was to know that there were others like me, and that there was a reason that other people didn't think the way I did.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by fzappa13 View Post
                      Yes, I know, and I think the reason we do it is intellectual laziness and I think this gets worse as time goes on. As we move from reading books to reading articles to reading posts our attention span as it concerns getting to know others has followed suit I fear and I don't see this as progress.
                      We differ then, to some extent. I think that labels are helpful, provided we recognize what they can't tell us about others and use them as general indicators subject to clarification that comes through experience and the particular hash outs that will happen in the exchange of ideas among people inclined to it.
                      You aren't what you eat, but you're always what you swallow.

                      Pro-Life






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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
                        We differ then, to some extent. I think that labels are helpful, provided we recognize what they can't tell us about others and use them as general indicators subject to clarification that comes through experience and the particular hash outs that will happen in the exchange of ideas among people inclined to it.
                        While I understand and appreciate the possibility you offer, my experience has taught me that people most often use such labels to more quickly dismiss others rather than understand them. Shorthand is just that ... and it requires the author to translate.
                        Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, others just gargle.

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                        • #87
                          I am INFP through and through. Introvert iNtuitive Feeling Perception

                          INFP PERSONALITY

                          INFP personalities are true idealists, always looking for the hint of good in even the worst of people and events, searching for ways to make things better. While they may be perceived as calm, reserved, or even shy, INFPs have an inner flame and passion that can truly shine. Comprising just 4% of the population, the risk of feeling misunderstood is unfortunately high for the INFP personality type - but when they find like-minded people to spend their time with, the harmony they feel will be a fountain of joy and inspiration.

                          INFP personalityBeing a part of the Diplomat (NF) personality group, INFPs are guided by their principles, rather than by logic (Analysts), excitement (Explorers), or practicality (Sentinels). When deciding how to move forward, they will look to honor, beauty, morality and virtue - INFPs are led by the purity of their intent, not rewards and punishments. People who share the INFP personality type are proud of this quality, and rightly so, but not everyone understands the drive behind these feelings, and it can lead to isolation.

                          All that is gold does not glitter; not all those who wander are lost; the old that is strong does not wither; deep roots are not reached by the frost.
                          J. R. R. Tolkien

                          WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE, BUT KNOW NOT WHAT WE MAY BE

                          At their best, these qualities enable INFPs to communicate deeply with others, easily speaking in metaphors and parables, and understanding and creating symbols to share their ideas. The strength of this intuitive communication style lends itself well to creative works, and it comes as no surprise that many famous INFPs are poets, writers and actors. Understanding themselves and their place in the world is important to INFPs, and they explore these ideas by projecting themselves into their work.

                          INFPs have a talent for self-expression, revealing their beauty and their secrets through metaphors and fictional characters.
                          INFPs’ ability with language doesn’t stop with their native tongue, either - as with most people who share the Diplomat personality types, they are considered gifted when it comes to learning a second (or third!) language. Their gift for communication also lends itself well to INFPs’ desire for harmony, a recurring theme with Diplomats, and helps them to move forward as they find their calling.

                          LISTEN TO MANY PEOPLE, BUT TALK TO FEW

                          Unlike their Extraverted cousins though, INFPs will focus their attention on just a few people, a single worthy cause - spread too thinly, they’ll run out of energy, and even become dejected and overwhelmed by all the bad in the world that they can’t fix. This is a sad sight for INFPs’ friends, who will come to depend on their rosy outlook.

                          If they are not careful, INFPs can lose themselves in their quest for good and neglect the day-to-day upkeep that life demands. INFPs often drift into deep thought, enjoying contemplating the hypothetical and the philosophical more than any other personality type. Left unchecked, INFPs may start to lose touch, withdrawing into "hermit mode", and it can take a great deal of energy from their friends or partner to bring them back to the real world.

                          Luckily, like the flowers in spring, INFP’s affection, creativity, altruism and idealism will always come back, rewarding them and those they love perhaps not with logic and utility, but with a world view that inspires compassion, kindness and beauty wherever they go.

                          Famous INFPs:

                          William Shakespeare J.R.R. Tolkien Björk Johnny Depp Julia Roberts Lisa Kudrow Tom Hiddleston Homer Virgil

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by musterion View Post
                            INFP, but I'm better at it than the two above me. I say that because I think such personality tests are hokum.


                            I'm INFP, too

                            I find it fascinating. INFP fits me so well, as does Highly Sensitive Person or High Sensory Processing Sensitivity.

                            Told ya I was weird

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Thunder's Muse View Post
                              I'm INFP, too

                              I find it fascinating. INFP fits me so well, as does Highly Sensitive Person or High Sensory Processing Sensitivity.

                              Told ya I was weird
                              I tested as INFP too.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Eeset View Post
                                I tested as INFP too.

                                There seems to be a lot of us on TOL

                                Are you drawn to 'darker, morbid' stuff?

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