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  • Town Heretic
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    Fill your mind with cynicism and you leave no room for faith.

    Fill your heart with anger and you leave no room for hope.

    Fill your soul with with judgement and you leave no room for love.

    Fill your day with each of these and you leave no room for God.

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  • Town Heretic
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    One of my students asked me if people were vertebrates or invertebrates. I answered with vertebrates, but admitted that recently there had been reason to question whether or not that rule extended to the Commissioner of the NFL.

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  • Stripe
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    Found 'em:


    There's not much use in saying [you don't agree with Jerry]; you don't have a systematic basis from which to discuss the issue. You use emotive language to talk about a man's eternity, which means you can simply refuse to acknowledge the internal consistency of an objection raised against your ideas.

    For example, you speak of a man "losing his faith," which can look like it means they have given up their salvation, but then when called on it, you start talking about simple faithlessness — which is an entirely different thing.




    You're not engaging in any fashion [with AMR] designed to reach a conclusion. You need a systematic theology and to stick to it if you want to be convincing. Facts don't care about your feelings.



    H/T to the dude who pointed out that the reports in the Woodshed held the text.

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  • Arthur Brain
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    Originally posted by Stripe View Post
    Seriously. Where did they go?
    Well, they were probably removed.

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  • Stripe
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    Seriously. Where did they go?

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  • Stripe
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    Originally posted by Sherman View Post
    If anyone comes here to engage in personal attacks, I don't care who you are, you will be booted from this thread.
    Where did my posts go?

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  • Town Heretic
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    Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    "I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace" (Eph.4:1-3).
    I like that, Jerry. Thanks for sharing it.

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  • Jerry Shugart
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    "I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace" (Eph.4:1-3).

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  • Stripe
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    Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
    I didn't enter any thread to start trouble, only to share something that I felt might have value.
    Several people disagree with your assessment. Are you here to discuss your ideas or are you truly a coward?
    I think honest disagreement about a topic can and should be held above the belt.
    What you think is irrelevant.

    If you want a discussion, have one.

    If you don't, there's the door.

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  • Sherman
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    I abominate the practice of picking at someone because of disagreement with views. It just is not productive. Rather it is childish. Instead let's have civil debate.

    That being said, don't engage or discuss the folks that pick at you. That way they won't have an excuse.

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  • Town Heretic
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    Originally posted by Sherman View Post
    If anyone comes here to engage in personal attacks, I don't care who you are, you will be booted from this thread.

    From the TOL rules:

    "Please do not marginalize TOL threads or TOL members, the topics and threads that interest some TOL members might not interest you. Just ignore threads and TOL members that do not interest you."
    Appreciated. I didn't enter any thread to start trouble, only to share something that I felt might have value. I understand not everyone will agree with me on any particular point, but I think honest disagreement about a topic can and should be held above the belt. I'm glad to see you continuing to hold that line here.

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  • Sherman
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    If anyone comes here to engage in personal attacks, I don't care who you are, you will be booted from this thread.

    From the TOL rules:

    "Please do not marginalize TOL threads or TOL members, the topics and threads that interest some TOL members might not interest you. Just ignore threads and TOL members that do not interest you."


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  • Town Heretic
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    I'm going to close this one down until an issue is resolved.

    Sorry to those of you who have attempted to advance the conversation or share something meaningful otherwise.

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  • Town Heretic
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    Went outside late with Joanna and Jack because they told me, "It (the eclipse) won't happen again for eighteen years!"

    Watched the two of them shivering in the cold, wonderstruck, and thought that a rarer and more beautiful thing was happening right in front of me.

    I can do eighteen years standing on my head.

    Better, I won't have to wait a few decades to see it happen again. Only until the next thing that catches their imagination.

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  • Jerry Shugart
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    Originally posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    I believe assurance can be gained in our walk of faith from feeding our faith and starving our doubts by not neglecting daily Scripture study, rejoicing in hope, being patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer (Romans 12:12), fellowship with other believers, keeping stewardship of the secular and spiritual gifts God has given us, and with regular assembly with others to worship God, receive instruction, access the ordinary means of grace, and be subject to discipline.
    Full assurance happens the moment a person believes the gospel:
    "For we know, brothers and sisters loved by God, that he has chosen you, because our gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction" (1 Thess.1:5; NIV).

    According to your ideas assurance cannot come to a person until he has done this or done that even though the gospel comes in the power of God (1 Cor.2:5) and in the Holy Spirit and results in those with saving faith have the "evidence" of things not seen (Heb.11:1).

    A person with saving faith has this "evidence" the moment he believes and the same evidence provides full assurance that what is revealed in true. But according to you "assurance" is gained in our walk.

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